ᐅ Final Stage of Floor Plan Design – Wearing Rose-Colored Glasses

Created on: 15 Jul 2020 08:29

Hello dear community!

I am new here, so please forgive me if I have not included all the information right away. I can gladly provide more details if needed.

We are currently remodeling the upper floor completely to create a separate apartment for ourselves. My parents-in-law will remain in the ground floor. Everything will be fully separated, meaning a separate staircase, cellar partition, etc.

I have followed the guideline somewhat. I hope the information is sufficient; otherwise, I can provide more as mentioned.

Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 500sqm (5400 sq ft)
Slope --
Site coverage ratio --
Floor area ratio --
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Edge development --
Number of parking spaces 5
Number of floors Upper floor, one level
Roof type Gable roof
Style Chalet
Orientation Southwest
Maximum heights / limits --
Other requirements --

Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Gable roof with partially exposed roof structure (Chalet)
Basement, floors: Already existing
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 2 children (toddlers)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: Family use or home office? Separate entrance
Overnight guests per year --
Open or closed architecture --
Traditional or modern construction --
Open kitchen, cooking island: Cooking island with dining area in one room
Number of dining seats >8
Fireplace Yes, ideally as a room divider between kitchen and living room
Music/audio wall
Balcony, roof terrace: Roof terrace at least 30sqm (320 sq ft)
Garage, carport
Utility garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included

House Design
Designer:
- Planner from a construction company

What do you particularly like? Why? I really like the plan. But maybe I’m wearing rose-colored glasses?
What do you not like? Why? Possibly a small children’s bathroom
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings: 500,000
Preferred heating technology:

If you have to give up certain details or add-ons

Why has the design turned out as it is now?
Our wishes were attempted to be implemented

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?

So far, I am very satisfied with the plan. It basically reflects what we envision. Still, I’d love to hear opinions—perhaps we are a bit biased.
The children’s room door will be moved down so that the parents’ area can be fully separated with a door in front of the master bathroom.
The only concern is the children’s bathroom and guest WC—I don’t see how to make them larger. Do you think this will work and look good?

Orientation:
The master bedroom and bathroom are located NE
Living room and kitchen SW

Upper Floor
Gray walls are existing structure
East and south sides face municipal roads

I am aware that the possibilities are relatively limited due to the existing structure. Nevertheless, I look forward to your suggestions and tips.

Best regards

Floor plan of a house with terrace, kitchen, living/dining, bedroom, office.

Climbee15 Jul 2020 10:06

#19

I agree with Pagoni – if there is the option to have a laundry room in the basement, I would go with that in this case. Having the utility room upstairs is great if space allows. Here, you would save space by moving the laundry downstairs (possibly even into a large enough room where the laundry could also be hung to dry).

Would that be possible?

I would still combine the bathrooms and, if necessary, enlarge the guest toilet a bit to allow more room to move around.

Müllerin15 Jul 2020 10:22

#20

What are the plans for when the parents-in-law no longer live there? Will you move downstairs and rent out the upper floor? Or will you stay upstairs?

I would never voluntarily put the washing machine in the basement and have to carry the laundry up and down two floors all the time.

I would remove the kitchen sink in that spot and replace it with floor-to-ceiling cabinets, which would provide plenty of storage space, even for four people. This way, the pantry can be eliminated and used as a laundry room instead.

I wouldn’t necessarily remove the wall in the children’s bathroom area. We once had a similar-sized apartment and found it quite practical. However, we only had one bathroom with a tub, sink, and washing machine, plus a separate toilet room. As is common in apartment buildings, these rooms had no windows. That setup allowed someone to shower in the evening even if someone else was using the toilet.

Pinky030115 Jul 2020 10:37

#21

@Tolentino I remove the lint by hand (we always get a lot of it) and throw it in the trash. Sometimes I also use the vacuum cleaner. This is how the manual recommends doing it. Occasionally, a message appears saying the base filter needs to be cleaned; it is located behind a flap at the bottom. That’s the only part I clean with water.

Tolentino15 Jul 2020 10:57

#22

Oh, well, I started out the same way. But the lint/dust is so firmly and sometimes sticky stuck in the filter that even after using the finger carpet method, I still rinse it out. I don’t know how my wife does it, but that’s always how I do it.

pagoni202015 Jul 2020 11:22

#23

Müllerin schrieb:

What is the plan for when your parents-in-law no longer live there? Will you move downstairs and rent out the upper floor? Or will you stay upstairs?

I would never willingly put the washing machine in the basement and constantly carry laundry up and down two floors.

I would remove the kitchen sink in that spot and install floor-to-ceiling cabinets instead. That would provide plenty of storage space, even for four people. This way, the pantry could be eliminated and used as a laundry room.

I wouldn’t necessarily remove the wall in the children’s bathroom area. We had a similar setup in an apartment with a similar size, and I found it quite practical. However, we only had one bathroom for the bathtub, sink, and washing machine, and a separate toilet room, as is common in apartment buildings, often without windows. That way, someone could shower in the evening even if a guest was using the toilet...

This kind of long-term planning with the parents wouldn’t be very important to me at the current stage, since the primary focus should be on the newly created living space first. How things will be in the future is more or less a guessing game, because life can change in many ways; so I would adapt everything exclusively to the immediate needs.
Of course, there are better solutions than doing laundry in the basement and carrying it over two floors, maybe a washing machine integrated in the kitchen. And perhaps it might happen once in a while that someone wants to shower just after a guest has heavily used the toilet a couple of minutes before. Still, I think this is somewhat dramatized, since the “guest shower-toilet overlap” situation will probably never happen or only 1–2 times in a lifetime. For that reason, it would be completely secondary to me; a guest bathroom without a window isn’t a problem at all.
Reducing or even eliminating the pantry could be a good option depending on overall space (vacuum cleaner, paper recycling, some tools, etc. — nothing large but should be considered).
I would simply focus on what is used frequently and what is needed less often.

11ant15 Jul 2020 17:21

#24

11ant schrieb:

that you 1. demolish a roof and 2. an upper floor, 3. then also the ceiling of the ground floor, 4. add a cantilevered new ceiling as the slab for a screw-head penthouse on top of the ground floor, and 5. attach a stairwell tower for access, which 6. is not even fully covered by the new roof

... everything else remains the same, only some details in the layout of the interior walls have changed. It still is a Frankenstein-style treehouse that abuses a house—already missing its ground floor ceiling—as a building base and casts a shadow over it—basically a stillborn project (and I still hope the district building authority will prevent this nonsense). This has nothing to do with wearing rose-colored glasses; you would practically have to have had a large dose of LSD for breakfast to see it otherwise!
If I were the head of the building department, the application would immediately be forwarded to the family court to appoint a guardian for all parties involved. Just looking at the upper floor floor plan, one might hardly understand my words—the closer analysis comes only from the demolition illustrations. But anyone who follows the original thread, including the existing house, can hardly seriously doubt the mental confusion at the root of this ill-conceived idea.

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ᐅ Final Stage of Floor Plan Design – Wearing Rose-Colored Glasses

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