ᐅ Floor plan for a 160 sqm urban villa – Requesting advice!
Created on: 28 Jan 2019 09:23
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Bauherrin92
Hello everyone,
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
Basement will be dark.
Be careful with light wells at the terrace.
Ground floor
Wardrobe only has a rough construction measurement of 56 cm (22 inches), so no cabinets will fit.
Is a shower downstairs really necessary? I wouldn’t want it like that.
The hallway is extremely large. I prefer the floor plan from Kahoo.
Pantry is very narrow.
Windows are missing in the living room area.
Upper floor
Bathroom
Move the door so that a cabinet can fit behind it.
Shower is quite dark.
A double sink should definitely fit.
Bedroom is rather narrow.
Walk-in closet has insufficient depth.
Is the plot flat now or not?
Be careful with light wells at the terrace.
Ground floor
Wardrobe only has a rough construction measurement of 56 cm (22 inches), so no cabinets will fit.
Is a shower downstairs really necessary? I wouldn’t want it like that.
The hallway is extremely large. I prefer the floor plan from Kahoo.
Pantry is very narrow.
Windows are missing in the living room area.
Upper floor
Bathroom
Move the door so that a cabinet can fit behind it.
Shower is quite dark.
A double sink should definitely fit.
Bedroom is rather narrow.
Walk-in closet has insufficient depth.
Is the plot flat now or not?
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Bauherrin9219 Mar 2019 15:36Thanks @ypg, @haydee
I’m currently furnishing, and some things don’t quite fit, like the coat rack area. The bedroom is too narrow, you’re right about that. I’ve found a solution for the coat rack-guest WC issue and will share it when I get the chance.
But I don’t understand why the pantry is considered too narrow. The shelves for the pantry are all a maximum of 40cm (16 inches) wide. That still leaves over a meter (over 3 feet) of space. I know pantries that work perfectly well with 1.20m (4 feet) width.
I’ve also seen wardrobes that are 1.40m (55 inches) wide. That works fine if it’s intended purely as a “closet room.”
I’m currently furnishing, and some things don’t quite fit, like the coat rack area. The bedroom is too narrow, you’re right about that. I’ve found a solution for the coat rack-guest WC issue and will share it when I get the chance.
But I don’t understand why the pantry is considered too narrow. The shelves for the pantry are all a maximum of 40cm (16 inches) wide. That still leaves over a meter (over 3 feet) of space. I know pantries that work perfectly well with 1.20m (4 feet) width.
I’ve also seen wardrobes that are 1.40m (55 inches) wide. That works fine if it’s intended purely as a “closet room.”
Place your freezer in the pantry and draw it with the door open.
Cupboards with doors are about 65 to 70 cm (26 to 28 inches) deep. That leaves around 75 cm (30 inches) for opening the doors, getting dressed, and carrying in a laundry basket. Without a wall, this tight space would still be comfortable.
Cupboards with doors are about 65 to 70 cm (26 to 28 inches) deep. That leaves around 75 cm (30 inches) for opening the doors, getting dressed, and carrying in a laundry basket. Without a wall, this tight space would still be comfortable.
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Bauherrin9219 Mar 2019 16:08haydee schrieb:
Try placing your freezer in the pantry and draw it with the door open.
Cupboards with doors are about 65 to 70cm (26 to 28 inches) deep. That leaves you around 75cm (30 inches) for opening doors, dressing, and carrying laundry baskets. Without a wall, that would be a comfortable amount of space.There won’t be cupboards with doors in either the pantry or the dressing room, but open shelves instead (essentially a walk-in wardrobe). Sorry, I should have explained that from the start.
Can you make out anything from the picture? There would be space for 2 wardrobes about 1.70m (5 ft 7 in) wide each, with 1.60m (5 ft 3 in) of space between them. The toilet looks "normal" again now. I realize the window as shown won’t work. I’m considering either leaving out the window or moving it further to the right, and placing a bench with storage underneath for everyday shoes.
Edit: To achieve the 1.7m (5 ft 7 in) width, I’ve slightly shifted the front door. I’m not sure whether that’s possible, but if not, the width would still be around 1.40m (4 ft 7 in).
Maybe you should just design the whole thing yourself. I think your latest sketch is better than any draft from the general contractor.
This way, the podium will work as well. Your windows are still all a bit off—I would leave the one in the cloakroom as is and just place a shoe cabinet under the windowsill there. You can adjust the other windows later.
Just make the pantry a bit deeper. It won’t harm the kitchen and will give you a lot more space there. Maybe you don’t want a refrigerator in the pantry right now, but wait 10 years. Then you might change your mind and regret it.
This way, the podium will work as well. Your windows are still all a bit off—I would leave the one in the cloakroom as is and just place a shoe cabinet under the windowsill there. You can adjust the other windows later.
Just make the pantry a bit deeper. It won’t harm the kitchen and will give you a lot more space there. Maybe you don’t want a refrigerator in the pantry right now, but wait 10 years. Then you might change your mind and regret it.
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