ᐅ Floor plan for a 160 sqm urban villa – Requesting advice!
Created on: 28 Jan 2019 09:23
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Bauherrin92
Hello everyone,
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
kaho674 schrieb:
I would not expect any structural issues You misunderstood two things: my words and the two floor plans.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
11ant schrieb:
You misread two things: my words and the two floor plans.I did read both – I guess the issue is with understanding then.I didn’t mean that the structural design would become problematic: although there are some jokes among apprentices about load-bearing walls on the upper floor above non-load-bearing or even no walls at all, it doesn’t really matter. With a truss roof, everything upstairs is finished with drywall anyway, so that’s easily overlooked with a tired smile.
What I meant is that the structural engineer will be the first one, after 40 pages of discussions and stagnation, to finally make some adjustments or add a highlight. Maybe I’m wrong and this time it will be the heating specialist, but in any case, before this passes from the floor plan draftsman to one of the specialized planners, there won’t be much significant progress.
At first glance, I can tell the floor plans weren’t developed using the additive method (arranging rooms first and then enclosing them with exterior walls), but rather the subtractive method (starting with the overall footprint and then inserting interior walls). I can also see immediately that the client and the builder see no difference between a walk-in closet and a wall placed inside the bedroom in perfect harmony. So if that works, everyone involved is happy.
However, I would like to send a message to the readers following along: “Dear children, please don’t copy this.” Because methodologically, you limit the range of possible results to something like the "House of Nicholas" drawing game and end up choosing only between the styles of Nicholas Bauhaus and Nicholas Tuscany.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
What I meant is that the structural engineer will be the first one, after 40 pages of discussions and stagnation, to finally make some adjustments or add a highlight. Maybe I’m wrong and this time it will be the heating specialist, but in any case, before this passes from the floor plan draftsman to one of the specialized planners, there won’t be much significant progress.
At first glance, I can tell the floor plans weren’t developed using the additive method (arranging rooms first and then enclosing them with exterior walls), but rather the subtractive method (starting with the overall footprint and then inserting interior walls). I can also see immediately that the client and the builder see no difference between a walk-in closet and a wall placed inside the bedroom in perfect harmony. So if that works, everyone involved is happy.
However, I would like to send a message to the readers following along: “Dear children, please don’t copy this.” Because methodologically, you limit the range of possible results to something like the "House of Nicholas" drawing game and end up choosing only between the styles of Nicholas Bauhaus and Nicholas Tuscany.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
So die Pläne sind da So, are you happy with the plans now? Is the excavator coming next week? What about the basement? Have you discussed the site grading?
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Bauherrin9231 Mar 2019 13:07kaho674 schrieb:
So, are you happy now? Is the excavator coming next week? What about the basement? Have you discussed the landscaping?Yes, we are satisfied with the plans. We will most likely omit the walk-in closet, as it doesn’t really make sense. We have moved the chimney to the corner of the living room. Otherwise, we were able to implement all our wishes, especially I am very happy with the wardrobe area.
Regarding the basement, we have only spoken by phone so far, as we had to cancel the last appointment (short-notice dental surgery). He said that once the ground survey and structural engineering report are completed, he will explain everything to us in detail.
The building permit / planning permission should arrive this week.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
Yes, we are happy with the plans. That's great to hear.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
We will most likely skip the walk-in closet; it doesn't really make sense as is. A good decision. However, you should definitely reconsider the window placement.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
The building permit / planning permission should arrive this week. Then time to pop some champagne!
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