ᐅ Building without antenna and satellite or coaxial cables without conduit?
Created on: 6 Jun 2020 12:18
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kati1337
Hello,
we received the additional electrical work quote today (ouch), and the contractor is basically getting very little because we decided to remove both the antenna and satellite connections.
Now I’m wondering if we are really that far off base or if I missed something. The antenna is that old-fashioned cable through which you could only receive channels like ARD, ZDF, and some regional channels back in the ’90s, right? Are there more channels available via antenna now? Is it even necessary? Does everyone just “have one”?
We currently have a satellite dish on the roof, but I believe the last time we actually used it was... I don’t know, 8 years ago?
So we were thinking about not installing a satellite connection at all. We simply don’t watch TV via satellite. I hate commercials, and when we do watch anything, it’s through streaming services. Plus, in our free time, we mostly do other things than watch TV anyway.
Are there any compelling reasons why we should still have satellite or antenna connections installed that I might be overlooking?
Topic 2: The electrical quote states that the CAT cables will be installed without conduits. I would prefer them to be installed with conduits so they can be replaced if needed in the future. Would you go for that? Or is it unnecessary?
we received the additional electrical work quote today (ouch), and the contractor is basically getting very little because we decided to remove both the antenna and satellite connections.
Now I’m wondering if we are really that far off base or if I missed something. The antenna is that old-fashioned cable through which you could only receive channels like ARD, ZDF, and some regional channels back in the ’90s, right? Are there more channels available via antenna now? Is it even necessary? Does everyone just “have one”?
We currently have a satellite dish on the roof, but I believe the last time we actually used it was... I don’t know, 8 years ago?
So we were thinking about not installing a satellite connection at all. We simply don’t watch TV via satellite. I hate commercials, and when we do watch anything, it’s through streaming services. Plus, in our free time, we mostly do other things than watch TV anyway.
Are there any compelling reasons why we should still have satellite or antenna connections installed that I might be overlooking?
Topic 2: The electrical quote states that the CAT cables will be installed without conduits. I would prefer them to be installed with conduits so they can be replaced if needed in the future. Would you go for that? Or is it unnecessary?
Thank you very much, that helped me a lot. Our general contractor includes 3 standard LAN outlets.
In the electrical planning meeting, we added a few more.
Among other unreasonable things, the electrical company has now sent us the following offer.
Am I completely wrong here, or are they trying to sell us an 8-port patch panel and switch for 600€?
I can understand the socket outlets, but the rest? Is the diameter of the Cat cables really only feasible like this? What?
In the electrical planning meeting, we added a few more.
Among other unreasonable things, the electrical company has now sent us the following offer.
Am I completely wrong here, or are they trying to sell us an 8-port patch panel and switch for 600€?
I can understand the socket outlets, but the rest? Is the diameter of the Cat cables really only feasible like this? What?
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knalltüte6 Jun 2020 13:29Patch panel 8-port Telegärtner approx. 35 €
Terminate 8 cables (slowly and carefully, maximum 45 minutes, usually closer to 20)
Testing? What does that mean for him?
For certification testing with an expensive Fluke DSP 10,000, I have always charged a few euros per test. He will probably have an 8 € continuity tester.
An 8-port switch for 95 € is available. The described (offered) model is not.
A “good” switch matching the rest of the standard would be, for example, a Zyxel GS108, costing approx. 30 €.
Cables can only be “tested” if they are terminated on both ends either at a patch panel or a socket. If one end is loose, I can only measure the length, nothing else (no faults in the wiring, no defective cables, etc.).
The total amount is not huge, the job is small, but I get the impression that it is twice as high as necessary.
Since I don’t see a 10" or 19" rack included, it will probably be mounted directly on the wall. That is possible, but not very neat. If so, then please at least tack a good quality wood panel to the wall that is large enough. This way, additional sockets, cable ducts for optimizing cable management, etc., can quickly be screwed on with Spax screws.
Terminate 8 cables (slowly and carefully, maximum 45 minutes, usually closer to 20)
Testing? What does that mean for him?
For certification testing with an expensive Fluke DSP 10,000, I have always charged a few euros per test. He will probably have an 8 € continuity tester.
An 8-port switch for 95 € is available. The described (offered) model is not.
A “good” switch matching the rest of the standard would be, for example, a Zyxel GS108, costing approx. 30 €.
Cables can only be “tested” if they are terminated on both ends either at a patch panel or a socket. If one end is loose, I can only measure the length, nothing else (no faults in the wiring, no defective cables, etc.).
The total amount is not huge, the job is small, but I get the impression that it is twice as high as necessary.
Since I don’t see a 10" or 19" rack included, it will probably be mounted directly on the wall. That is possible, but not very neat. If so, then please at least tack a good quality wood panel to the wall that is large enough. This way, additional sockets, cable ducts for optimizing cable management, etc., can quickly be screwed on with Spax screws.
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knalltüte6 Jun 2020 13:31The switch is not necessary for measuring; anyone who claims otherwise is mistaken.
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knalltüte6 Jun 2020 13:33Are the wet room junction boxes included with wiring? From the distribution box located in the same room, about 3 meters (10 feet) or so?
superzapp schrieb:
Are the wet room boxes including wiring? From the distribution panel hanging in the same room, so about 3m (10 feet) or so? Yes... practically about 50cm (20 inches) away, I assume...
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