ᐅ Building without antenna and satellite or coaxial cables without conduit?

Created on: 6 Jun 2020 12:18
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kati1337
Hello,
we received the additional electrical work quote today (ouch), and the contractor is basically getting very little because we decided to remove both the antenna and satellite connections.

Now I’m wondering if we are really that far off base or if I missed something. The antenna is that old-fashioned cable through which you could only receive channels like ARD, ZDF, and some regional channels back in the ’90s, right? Are there more channels available via antenna now? Is it even necessary? Does everyone just “have one”?
We currently have a satellite dish on the roof, but I believe the last time we actually used it was... I don’t know, 8 years ago?
So we were thinking about not installing a satellite connection at all. We simply don’t watch TV via satellite. I hate commercials, and when we do watch anything, it’s through streaming services. Plus, in our free time, we mostly do other things than watch TV anyway.

Are there any compelling reasons why we should still have satellite or antenna connections installed that I might be overlooking?

Topic 2: The electrical quote states that the CAT cables will be installed without conduits. I would prefer them to be installed with conduits so they can be replaced if needed in the future. Would you go for that? Or is it unnecessary?
rick201815 Jun 2020 05:27
@Pamiko that is not correct.
The installation space inside the access points is so limited that a connector on the cable cannot fit in (depending on the model).
The simplest, cleanest, and most cost-effective solution is to have a cable installed up to the desired location with about 1 meter (3 feet) of extra length. When the drywall goes up, simply drill a 30 mm (1.2 inch) hole at that spot and pull the cable through. Then attach a keystone module to the cable.
Use a short patch cable (for example, 25 cm (10 inches)) to connect the access point and the keystone. Push the excess cable with the keystone through the hole into the ceiling and mount the access point above it. That’s why the hole needs to be about 3 cm (1.2 inches) wide to allow the keystone to fit through.
The cable entry on the access points is not centered. You should take this into account if you want to position the access point precisely. For the Nano HD, the hole should be offset by about 3.5 cm (1.4 inches).
It’s different for other models. It’s best to get an access point beforehand and measure it.
A standard flush-mount box does not have enough space to accommodate excess cable. You would need deeper boxes for that.
The first option is usually preferable, although it's not always possible. In your case, however, it is.
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Nairil
15 Jun 2020 16:50
rick2018 schrieb:

You connect the access point and the keystone jack with a short patch cable (e.g., 25cm (10 inches)).

I have a question about this ... Why would there be enough space to use a patch cable, but not enough room for a connector on the in-wall cable?
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hanse987
15 Jun 2020 17:00
The connectors for in-wall cables are so bulky that there isn’t enough space at or behind the access point. Additionally, the in-wall cable is not flexible enough. That’s why a short patch cable is used as a workaround.
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knalltüte
15 Jun 2020 17:11
Close-up of a Cat6A network connector with orange cable



or like this


RJ-45 Ethernet connector on network cable, close-up.


The upper one does not fit into the access point, but the lower one does.
rick201816 Jun 2020 14:02
Installation cable is still quite stiff. Therefore, patch cables are used. They are also easier to replace if they have been bent too sharply...
kati133716 Jun 2020 18:53
For the mentioned solutions, how do you supply power to the access point? Power over Ethernet, or do they also get a power outlet installed nearby?