ᐅ 12 x 9.6 m, 2 full stories, basement, attic, 4 children's bedrooms
Created on: 26 Apr 2018 22:24
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Johannes L
Hello everyone,
After more than six years of searching, we will soon be able to purchase a plot of land, so it’s time to advance the planning.
Since we are still undecided whether to build with an architect or a developer, we started drawing ourselves and have been diligently browsing internet forums like this one. The floor plans below are the result, thanks to SketchUp.
I hope we understand the floor area ratio correctly, meaning the basement is not included. Otherwise, we have a problem...
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size 15.6 x 29.95 m = 436 sqm (51.2 x 98.3 ft = 4,692 sq ft)
Slope no
Site coverage ratio 0.4 = 174.4 sqm (1,878 sq ft)
Floor area ratio 0.8 = 348.8 sqm (3,753 sq ft)
Building envelope, building line and boundary 12 m depth (39 ft)
Setbacks 3 m (10 ft) on right and left
Number of parking spaces only in front of the garage planned
Number of storeys 2 full storeys
Roof type Gable roof 42 degrees
Style brick + Wienerberger Poroton T7 P 36.5
Orientation garden facing east-northeast
Maximum height restrictions 10 m (33 ft) high
Other requirements finished floor level at least 30 cm (12 inches) above reference mark
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type gable roof is mandatory
Basement, number of storeys 2 full
Number and ages of occupants 6 (37, 36, 6, 4, 2, 0)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors (see plan)
Office: family use or home office? both
Guests sleeping per year the attic provides enough space
Open or closed architecture
Traditional or modern design it will be a smart home with KNX, photovoltaic system, heat pump, possibly battery storage…
Open kitchen, kitchen island open kitchen
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace no
Music/stereo wall I was thinking of multi-room audio, i.e. one ceiling speaker per room
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport garage
Utility garden, greenhouse later
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why certain things are required or excluded The house should be divisible in 25 years, hence the staircase placement. There is a kitchen shown on the upper floor, but it will only be relevant in 25 years. I roughly marked the ventilation system, indicating where ceiling or wall outlets might be and where ducts lead to the upper floors. The two offices are important. The master bedroom on the ground floor is future-proof. Everyone gets old!
House design
Who designed the plan: us amateurs
What do you like most? Why? four equally sized children’s rooms
What do you like least? Why? the upstairs hallway might be somewhat dark
Price estimate according to architect/planner: if only we knew
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: 400 + building allowance
Preferred heating technology: ground-source heat pump
If you have to give up features or extensions
- what can you do without: I hope we don’t have to
- what can you not do without: we definitely want to keep the base dimensions and the basement is a must, but we may have to save on components.
Why is the design like it is now? 4 children’s rooms, two offices, ground floor master bedroom, divisibility in 25 years…
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? that’s what we want to know from you
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
What would you do differently and why?
After more than six years of searching, we will soon be able to purchase a plot of land, so it’s time to advance the planning.
Since we are still undecided whether to build with an architect or a developer, we started drawing ourselves and have been diligently browsing internet forums like this one. The floor plans below are the result, thanks to SketchUp.
I hope we understand the floor area ratio correctly, meaning the basement is not included. Otherwise, we have a problem...
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size 15.6 x 29.95 m = 436 sqm (51.2 x 98.3 ft = 4,692 sq ft)
Slope no
Site coverage ratio 0.4 = 174.4 sqm (1,878 sq ft)
Floor area ratio 0.8 = 348.8 sqm (3,753 sq ft)
Building envelope, building line and boundary 12 m depth (39 ft)
Setbacks 3 m (10 ft) on right and left
Number of parking spaces only in front of the garage planned
Number of storeys 2 full storeys
Roof type Gable roof 42 degrees
Style brick + Wienerberger Poroton T7 P 36.5
Orientation garden facing east-northeast
Maximum height restrictions 10 m (33 ft) high
Other requirements finished floor level at least 30 cm (12 inches) above reference mark
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type gable roof is mandatory
Basement, number of storeys 2 full
Number and ages of occupants 6 (37, 36, 6, 4, 2, 0)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors (see plan)
Office: family use or home office? both
Guests sleeping per year the attic provides enough space
Open or closed architecture
Traditional or modern design it will be a smart home with KNX, photovoltaic system, heat pump, possibly battery storage…
Open kitchen, kitchen island open kitchen
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace no
Music/stereo wall I was thinking of multi-room audio, i.e. one ceiling speaker per room
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport garage
Utility garden, greenhouse later
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why certain things are required or excluded The house should be divisible in 25 years, hence the staircase placement. There is a kitchen shown on the upper floor, but it will only be relevant in 25 years. I roughly marked the ventilation system, indicating where ceiling or wall outlets might be and where ducts lead to the upper floors. The two offices are important. The master bedroom on the ground floor is future-proof. Everyone gets old!
House design
Who designed the plan: us amateurs
What do you like most? Why? four equally sized children’s rooms
What do you like least? Why? the upstairs hallway might be somewhat dark
Price estimate according to architect/planner: if only we knew
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: 400 + building allowance
Preferred heating technology: ground-source heat pump
If you have to give up features or extensions
- what can you do without: I hope we don’t have to
- what can you not do without: we definitely want to keep the base dimensions and the basement is a must, but we may have to save on components.
Why is the design like it is now? 4 children’s rooms, two offices, ground floor master bedroom, divisibility in 25 years…
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? that’s what we want to know from you
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
What would you do differently and why?
With the latest floor plan, the rooms are reasonably large. However, the kitchen is quite far from the garden and the terrace.
I do think that a smaller footprint and living on three floors is more cost-effective. You just have to be careful that it doesn’t end up looking like a tower.
A nice master bedroom under the roof also provides a retreat when the children are older. No one in the living room next door, no noise from above.
If the house is divided later, for example, the living room can be separated. Two people don’t need such a large open-plan area.
I do think that a smaller footprint and living on three floors is more cost-effective. You just have to be careful that it doesn’t end up looking like a tower.
A nice master bedroom under the roof also provides a retreat when the children are older. No one in the living room next door, no noise from above.
If the house is divided later, for example, the living room can be separated. Two people don’t need such a large open-plan area.
haydee schrieb:
I do think that a smaller footprint and living on 3 floors is more cost-effective. But that would make splitting the space even more complicated, and having 2 unused floors in old age would be quite burdensome.Basically, you could only omit the office on the ground floor. If the division is still supposed to work, you need the bedroom and shower bathroom. Also, the living areas cannot be any smaller since 6 people are using them. Sorry, but I don’t see how a smaller footprint is possible.
haydee schrieb:
With the latest floor plan, there are reasonably large rooms. However, the kitchen is quite far from the garden and terrace.
Yes, I had thought about using mirrors again. However, then the bedroom is right by the street...Traffic is usually lighter at night. Depending on how the neighborhood is laid out, the garden can be noisier in the evenings during the warmer months.
Four floors are planned. Why only occupy two?
It is often advised against making compromises now for something that might happen later. A large living and dining area is needed right now. Also, a correspondingly large kitchen. For two people, this will be completely oversized later on. Why not separate part of it?
Just a thought.
Kaho, you have shown some good floor plans that meet the needs. Small, compact, not bulky does not work for this size. Whether the living space is spread over two or three floors, building small for six people is not really feasible.
Ultimately, the original poster has to decide how to balance their requirements, budget, planning permission/building permit, and needs.
I’m curious to see how the project progresses.
Four floors are planned. Why only occupy two?
It is often advised against making compromises now for something that might happen later. A large living and dining area is needed right now. Also, a correspondingly large kitchen. For two people, this will be completely oversized later on. Why not separate part of it?
Just a thought.
Kaho, you have shown some good floor plans that meet the needs. Small, compact, not bulky does not work for this size. Whether the living space is spread over two or three floors, building small for six people is not really feasible.
Ultimately, the original poster has to decide how to balance their requirements, budget, planning permission/building permit, and needs.
I’m curious to see how the project progresses.
haydee schrieb:
There are 4 floors planned. Why only live on two of them? Because of the desired possibility to divide the house in old age.
haydee schrieb:
People often advise against making compromises now for something that might or might not happen later. With two children, I agree with you immediately – but not with four. The likelihood that at least one of them will move back home is high.
haydee schrieb:
Right now, a huge living and dining room is needed. Also a correspondingly large kitchen. For two people, this will later be completely oversized. Why not separate off part of it?
Just a thought. Yes, I also think that’s a good idea. It’s worth considering further. So, downstairs just living, cooking/dining + a guest WC with shower, then the rest on the 1st and 2nd floors. Later, the elderly live downstairs, where part of the former living area must work as a bedroom, and the grandchildren’s family the 1st and 2nd floors.
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