ᐅ 12 x 9.6 m, 2 full stories, basement, attic, 4 children's bedrooms
Created on: 26 Apr 2018 22:24
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Johannes L
Hello everyone,
After more than six years of searching, we will soon be able to purchase a plot of land, so it’s time to advance the planning.
Since we are still undecided whether to build with an architect or a developer, we started drawing ourselves and have been diligently browsing internet forums like this one. The floor plans below are the result, thanks to SketchUp.
I hope we understand the floor area ratio correctly, meaning the basement is not included. Otherwise, we have a problem...
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size 15.6 x 29.95 m = 436 sqm (51.2 x 98.3 ft = 4,692 sq ft)
Slope no
Site coverage ratio 0.4 = 174.4 sqm (1,878 sq ft)
Floor area ratio 0.8 = 348.8 sqm (3,753 sq ft)
Building envelope, building line and boundary 12 m depth (39 ft)
Setbacks 3 m (10 ft) on right and left
Number of parking spaces only in front of the garage planned
Number of storeys 2 full storeys
Roof type Gable roof 42 degrees
Style brick + Wienerberger Poroton T7 P 36.5
Orientation garden facing east-northeast
Maximum height restrictions 10 m (33 ft) high
Other requirements finished floor level at least 30 cm (12 inches) above reference mark
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type gable roof is mandatory
Basement, number of storeys 2 full
Number and ages of occupants 6 (37, 36, 6, 4, 2, 0)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors (see plan)
Office: family use or home office? both
Guests sleeping per year the attic provides enough space
Open or closed architecture
Traditional or modern design it will be a smart home with KNX, photovoltaic system, heat pump, possibly battery storage…
Open kitchen, kitchen island open kitchen
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace no
Music/stereo wall I was thinking of multi-room audio, i.e. one ceiling speaker per room
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport garage
Utility garden, greenhouse later
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why certain things are required or excluded The house should be divisible in 25 years, hence the staircase placement. There is a kitchen shown on the upper floor, but it will only be relevant in 25 years. I roughly marked the ventilation system, indicating where ceiling or wall outlets might be and where ducts lead to the upper floors. The two offices are important. The master bedroom on the ground floor is future-proof. Everyone gets old!
House design
Who designed the plan: us amateurs
What do you like most? Why? four equally sized children’s rooms
What do you like least? Why? the upstairs hallway might be somewhat dark
Price estimate according to architect/planner: if only we knew
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: 400 + building allowance
Preferred heating technology: ground-source heat pump
If you have to give up features or extensions
- what can you do without: I hope we don’t have to
- what can you not do without: we definitely want to keep the base dimensions and the basement is a must, but we may have to save on components.
Why is the design like it is now? 4 children’s rooms, two offices, ground floor master bedroom, divisibility in 25 years…
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? that’s what we want to know from you
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
What would you do differently and why?
After more than six years of searching, we will soon be able to purchase a plot of land, so it’s time to advance the planning.
Since we are still undecided whether to build with an architect or a developer, we started drawing ourselves and have been diligently browsing internet forums like this one. The floor plans below are the result, thanks to SketchUp.
I hope we understand the floor area ratio correctly, meaning the basement is not included. Otherwise, we have a problem...
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size 15.6 x 29.95 m = 436 sqm (51.2 x 98.3 ft = 4,692 sq ft)
Slope no
Site coverage ratio 0.4 = 174.4 sqm (1,878 sq ft)
Floor area ratio 0.8 = 348.8 sqm (3,753 sq ft)
Building envelope, building line and boundary 12 m depth (39 ft)
Setbacks 3 m (10 ft) on right and left
Number of parking spaces only in front of the garage planned
Number of storeys 2 full storeys
Roof type Gable roof 42 degrees
Style brick + Wienerberger Poroton T7 P 36.5
Orientation garden facing east-northeast
Maximum height restrictions 10 m (33 ft) high
Other requirements finished floor level at least 30 cm (12 inches) above reference mark
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type gable roof is mandatory
Basement, number of storeys 2 full
Number and ages of occupants 6 (37, 36, 6, 4, 2, 0)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors (see plan)
Office: family use or home office? both
Guests sleeping per year the attic provides enough space
Open or closed architecture
Traditional or modern design it will be a smart home with KNX, photovoltaic system, heat pump, possibly battery storage…
Open kitchen, kitchen island open kitchen
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace no
Music/stereo wall I was thinking of multi-room audio, i.e. one ceiling speaker per room
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport garage
Utility garden, greenhouse later
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why certain things are required or excluded The house should be divisible in 25 years, hence the staircase placement. There is a kitchen shown on the upper floor, but it will only be relevant in 25 years. I roughly marked the ventilation system, indicating where ceiling or wall outlets might be and where ducts lead to the upper floors. The two offices are important. The master bedroom on the ground floor is future-proof. Everyone gets old!
House design
Who designed the plan: us amateurs
What do you like most? Why? four equally sized children’s rooms
What do you like least? Why? the upstairs hallway might be somewhat dark
Price estimate according to architect/planner: if only we knew
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: 400 + building allowance
Preferred heating technology: ground-source heat pump
If you have to give up features or extensions
- what can you do without: I hope we don’t have to
- what can you not do without: we definitely want to keep the base dimensions and the basement is a must, but we may have to save on components.
Why is the design like it is now? 4 children’s rooms, two offices, ground floor master bedroom, divisibility in 25 years…
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? that’s what we want to know from you
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
What would you do differently and why?
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Johannes L30 Apr 2018 14:50@katja: Thanks for your second draft. I like it quite a bit as well, but I think the first one, or rather what I took from it (which is most of it ), suits our needs even better.
My wife currently doesn’t like the kitchen island, so I redesigned it again.
@Escroda: Thanks a lot for your suggestions. The caravan is not standing on a designated parking space but on the lawn. Maybe I’ll put two slabs underneath, but no more than that. However, the garage should definitely have paving.
Your point about the terrace is a good one. Because of the floor-to-ceiling windows and the long sliding door, I believe it would be wise to pour the terrace concrete at the same time to avoid any height differences later on (possibly caused by settling over the years) and to embed a drainage channel between the terrace and the house directly into the concrete.
My wife currently doesn’t like the kitchen island, so I redesigned it again.
@Escroda: Thanks a lot for your suggestions. The caravan is not standing on a designated parking space but on the lawn. Maybe I’ll put two slabs underneath, but no more than that. However, the garage should definitely have paving.
Your point about the terrace is a good one. Because of the floor-to-ceiling windows and the long sliding door, I believe it would be wise to pour the terrace concrete at the same time to avoid any height differences later on (possibly caused by settling over the years) and to embed a drainage channel between the terrace and the house directly into the concrete.
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Johannes L30 Apr 2018 16:54kaho674 schrieb:
Wouldn't you usually expect something like this in the kitchen? Otherwise, you end up running in circles around this massive island with your shopping bags.
Hello Katja, not necessarily. If you place the island on the window side, you lose the beautiful large continuous glass frontage.
Johannes L schrieb:
Because of the floor-to-ceiling windows and the wide sliding door, I think it would be smart to pour the terrace slab at the same time to avoid height differences later on (possibly caused by settling over the years) and to embed a drainage channel between the terrace and the house directly into the concrete. Due to thermal separation, that certainly wouldn’t be advisable.
Besides, I keep seeing the same floor plan here, varying only at the fourth or fifth decimal place. It seems you don’t pick up on the signs that the supposed fine-tuning stage is still light years away.
Anyway, I’m off now (not on the Camino de Santiago, though).
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11ant schrieb:
Indications that the supposed final stage is still light years away don’t seem to get through to you. @Thies: You’ve been saying that quite often now. But I also don’t see how, with 4 kids and 2 home offices, you wouldn’t need to fully use the 12 x 9.6 meters (39 x 31.5 feet). I also don’t believe it would be cheaper to reduce the house size and instead expand the attic. Living on three levels is not necessarily desirable, in my opinion. Besides, the option to divide the space plays a significant role and can’t be ignored with 4 children.
So what exactly do you mean? What alternative do you have in mind? I’m afraid the original poster and their family (and myself as well) are less stubborn; we just can’t follow your reasoning.
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