ᐅ 12 x 9.6 m, 2 full stories, basement, attic, 4 children's bedrooms
Created on: 26 Apr 2018 22:24
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Johannes L
Hello everyone,
After more than six years of searching, we will soon be able to purchase a plot of land, so it’s time to advance the planning.
Since we are still undecided whether to build with an architect or a developer, we started drawing ourselves and have been diligently browsing internet forums like this one. The floor plans below are the result, thanks to SketchUp.
I hope we understand the floor area ratio correctly, meaning the basement is not included. Otherwise, we have a problem...
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size 15.6 x 29.95 m = 436 sqm (51.2 x 98.3 ft = 4,692 sq ft)
Slope no
Site coverage ratio 0.4 = 174.4 sqm (1,878 sq ft)
Floor area ratio 0.8 = 348.8 sqm (3,753 sq ft)
Building envelope, building line and boundary 12 m depth (39 ft)
Setbacks 3 m (10 ft) on right and left
Number of parking spaces only in front of the garage planned
Number of storeys 2 full storeys
Roof type Gable roof 42 degrees
Style brick + Wienerberger Poroton T7 P 36.5
Orientation garden facing east-northeast
Maximum height restrictions 10 m (33 ft) high
Other requirements finished floor level at least 30 cm (12 inches) above reference mark
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type gable roof is mandatory
Basement, number of storeys 2 full
Number and ages of occupants 6 (37, 36, 6, 4, 2, 0)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors (see plan)
Office: family use or home office? both
Guests sleeping per year the attic provides enough space
Open or closed architecture
Traditional or modern design it will be a smart home with KNX, photovoltaic system, heat pump, possibly battery storage…
Open kitchen, kitchen island open kitchen
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace no
Music/stereo wall I was thinking of multi-room audio, i.e. one ceiling speaker per room
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport garage
Utility garden, greenhouse later
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why certain things are required or excluded The house should be divisible in 25 years, hence the staircase placement. There is a kitchen shown on the upper floor, but it will only be relevant in 25 years. I roughly marked the ventilation system, indicating where ceiling or wall outlets might be and where ducts lead to the upper floors. The two offices are important. The master bedroom on the ground floor is future-proof. Everyone gets old!
House design
Who designed the plan: us amateurs
What do you like most? Why? four equally sized children’s rooms
What do you like least? Why? the upstairs hallway might be somewhat dark
Price estimate according to architect/planner: if only we knew
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: 400 + building allowance
Preferred heating technology: ground-source heat pump
If you have to give up features or extensions
- what can you do without: I hope we don’t have to
- what can you not do without: we definitely want to keep the base dimensions and the basement is a must, but we may have to save on components.
Why is the design like it is now? 4 children’s rooms, two offices, ground floor master bedroom, divisibility in 25 years…
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? that’s what we want to know from you
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
What would you do differently and why?
After more than six years of searching, we will soon be able to purchase a plot of land, so it’s time to advance the planning.
Since we are still undecided whether to build with an architect or a developer, we started drawing ourselves and have been diligently browsing internet forums like this one. The floor plans below are the result, thanks to SketchUp.
I hope we understand the floor area ratio correctly, meaning the basement is not included. Otherwise, we have a problem...
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size 15.6 x 29.95 m = 436 sqm (51.2 x 98.3 ft = 4,692 sq ft)
Slope no
Site coverage ratio 0.4 = 174.4 sqm (1,878 sq ft)
Floor area ratio 0.8 = 348.8 sqm (3,753 sq ft)
Building envelope, building line and boundary 12 m depth (39 ft)
Setbacks 3 m (10 ft) on right and left
Number of parking spaces only in front of the garage planned
Number of storeys 2 full storeys
Roof type Gable roof 42 degrees
Style brick + Wienerberger Poroton T7 P 36.5
Orientation garden facing east-northeast
Maximum height restrictions 10 m (33 ft) high
Other requirements finished floor level at least 30 cm (12 inches) above reference mark
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type gable roof is mandatory
Basement, number of storeys 2 full
Number and ages of occupants 6 (37, 36, 6, 4, 2, 0)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors (see plan)
Office: family use or home office? both
Guests sleeping per year the attic provides enough space
Open or closed architecture
Traditional or modern design it will be a smart home with KNX, photovoltaic system, heat pump, possibly battery storage…
Open kitchen, kitchen island open kitchen
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace no
Music/stereo wall I was thinking of multi-room audio, i.e. one ceiling speaker per room
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport garage
Utility garden, greenhouse later
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why certain things are required or excluded The house should be divisible in 25 years, hence the staircase placement. There is a kitchen shown on the upper floor, but it will only be relevant in 25 years. I roughly marked the ventilation system, indicating where ceiling or wall outlets might be and where ducts lead to the upper floors. The two offices are important. The master bedroom on the ground floor is future-proof. Everyone gets old!
House design
Who designed the plan: us amateurs
What do you like most? Why? four equally sized children’s rooms
What do you like least? Why? the upstairs hallway might be somewhat dark
Price estimate according to architect/planner: if only we knew
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: 400 + building allowance
Preferred heating technology: ground-source heat pump
If you have to give up features or extensions
- what can you do without: I hope we don’t have to
- what can you not do without: we definitely want to keep the base dimensions and the basement is a must, but we may have to save on components.
Why is the design like it is now? 4 children’s rooms, two offices, ground floor master bedroom, divisibility in 25 years…
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? that’s what we want to know from you
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
What would you do differently and why?
It also depends on the size. In this case, the open-plan living area is larger than some apartments designed for 2-3 people. There is still plenty of space for the kitchen, dining, and living areas without having to move the folding table next to the bed to eat.
Or you could sell the house later. The location is really good. The parents-in-law have 3 children, none of whom live in the house. They don’t want to rent it out despite the possibility of subdivision. They want to have their peace and quiet.
Or you could sell the house later. The location is really good. The parents-in-law have 3 children, none of whom live in the house. They don’t want to rent it out despite the possibility of subdivision. They want to have their peace and quiet.
A finished attic would, of course, solve all space issues. Just roughly outlined with 9.6 x 10.5 meters (31.5 x 34.4 feet). Anyone who puts effort into it can probably reduce the floor area even further without sacrificing quality of living:
This is just for brainstorming. The drainage for the KiBa is completely uncertain. I just don’t know if it would ultimately be more cost-effective. I think it would have to be significantly smaller, though. Enclosed volume versus finished square meters – I see a disadvantage compared to the 12-meter (39.4 feet) option without attic conversion.
This is just for brainstorming. The drainage for the KiBa is completely uncertain. I just don’t know if it would ultimately be more cost-effective. I think it would have to be significantly smaller, though. Enclosed volume versus finished square meters – I see a disadvantage compared to the 12-meter (39.4 feet) option without attic conversion.
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Johannes L1 May 2018 14:49A possible option in the attic is also a granny flat. Up to 50 square meters (540 square feet) is allowed, and there are many sloped ceilings. It could definitely be rented out well in the first few years.
As you have planned your living room, it won’t really become a “relaxation zone.” You have four children who are still young and certainly won’t go to the fridge alone at night. As the children get older, one of them will constantly come into the kitchen in the evening (each child probably three times throughout the evening) and walk through your living area... Lights will be turned on, doors left open, and you can forget about dozing off on the sofa. I would at least plan my living area in a way that allows me some peace in the evening and not as a passageway through which my children’s friends also walk to the kitchen. How do you actually intend to watch TV, standing in front of it?
Best regards,
Sabine
Best regards,
Sabine
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Johannes L2 May 2018 08:29Hello Sabine,
As mentioned before, a TV is not very important to us, but you are right that having a "quiet" living room would have its advantages. The kitchen facing the garden, however, has a higher priority for us. When and how the children will enter the kitchen remains to be seen.
With the current floor plan, the sofas can also be placed side by side in front of the TV and extended. This creates a large lounging area that could comfortably accommodate more than six people.
Besides that, I have updated the elevations.
Best regards,
Johannes
As mentioned before, a TV is not very important to us, but you are right that having a "quiet" living room would have its advantages. The kitchen facing the garden, however, has a higher priority for us. When and how the children will enter the kitchen remains to be seen.
With the current floor plan, the sofas can also be placed side by side in front of the TV and extended. This creates a large lounging area that could comfortably accommodate more than six people.
Besides that, I have updated the elevations.
Best regards,
Johannes
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