ᐅ House extends above ground level – how much soil can be backfilled (with shallow basement)?

Created on: 15 Oct 2022 19:11
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Machu Picchu
Hello everyone,

we are now in the final phase of our house construction.

Because the sewage system on our property is not far below ground level and we did not install a sewage lift system, our basement was only excavated to a shallow depth.

The ceiling height of the basement rooms is 2.50m (8 feet 2 inches), as these areas are intended to be living spaces, unlike the neighboring houses, whose basement heights are lower.

As a result, our front door and the two patio doors are positioned much higher than those of the neighboring houses. In the next few days, soil will be filled up to the level of the terrace and front doors.

I do not want this to turn into a discussion about different construction methods; instead, I am looking for advice on how to best handle this somewhat unusual situation.

First, some photos:



Marked in red are the two patio doors. Soil will be filled up to just below these patio doors, except, of course, at light wells and shafts. The terrace will be paved around the corner, following the two indicated patio doors (because we wanted two sunny sides on the terrace for different times of the day). To the left of the single-leaf patio door (where the exterior plaster ends), a retaining wall will be built from the terrace level down to the ground.



This is a front view. On the left, the construction staircase leads up to the entrance door. The front door is at the same level as the two patio doors.



Here is the view from the back.



This is the view from the back toward the front door.



And here is another rear view including the neighboring houses.

As planned, as mentioned, soil will be filled up to the level of the house and terrace doors, and at this level the garden will be designed on the side of the large double patio door as well as behind the house, with steep slopes created just before the property boundary.

On the front door side, soil will also be filled up to front door level.

Toward the "front" (the side with the single patio door), the street level will be reached by terrace-like steps with 2-3 slope terraces supported by walls/granite.

Our concern now is: if we fill soil all around the house at door level on the side with the double patio door, at the back, and on the front door side, our garden height will be so high that, compared to the neighbors, our house will stand out significantly due to the very elevated ground level.

We are now considering ways to soften this.

One idea is to fill soil to door level only at the terrace wrapping the corner and directly at the front door, and to fill soil, for example, 50cm (20 inches) below door level everywhere else.

This way, the garden level would not be so dramatically higher than the neighbors’.

The problem with this is that we would partially expose the "basement" and areas without exterior plaster would become visible. We would likely need to hire a plasterer on our own to plaster additional areas and paint them with gray base paint. Time is tight because the soil will be delivered for filling within the next days/weeks. How long would such plastering take and what would it approximately cost?

Question to the forum: What do you think about this? Do you have other solutions? Or are our concerns unfounded?

Thank you very much in advance for any advice.
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ypg
16 Oct 2022 11:14
Machu Picchu schrieb:

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So I misunderstood that?
Machu Picchu schrieb:

Again: Of course there are drawings and plans, two of which I copied and posted here, but the actual scale was not clear to us.

Hmm, I have it in mind... never mind...

I forgot about #52: I would then frame the larger rear window with a custom-built light well made of natural stone or something similar.
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Machu Picchu
16 Oct 2022 11:18
ypg schrieb:

So I misunderstood that?

The drawing is in this thread under point 20, and nowhere else under a different name...
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Yosan
16 Oct 2022 11:20
Based on the drawings, you apparently envisioned the site differently than how it turned out or is going to turn out.
Therefore, I would like to ask (and feel free to answer with pictures): WHAT was your idea of the entrance area, terrace, garden, view from the street, and so on.
Maybe at least some parts of it can still be implemented.
11ant16 Oct 2022 11:21
Machu Picchu schrieb:

Of course, there are drawings and plans, two of which I copied and posted here, but their
... enlightening effect is rather limited. I would have liked to help, but I can switch to popcorn mode upon request ;-)
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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Machu Picchu
16 Oct 2022 11:24
ypg schrieb:

You can clearly see that the neighbor on the left has also built up the ground level. I would probably match that level and possibly raise it another 30/40cm (12/16 inches) with planting to maintain or hide it. You would then need to check how much height is still missing up to the entrance door.
At the back, this is either negligible for now or not relevant. I would place the carport at one of the two patio doors for easy access, as a terrace… where do the doors lead to? Then at least the shaft would be well aligned with the paving level. To save costs, paving could be replaced by gravel only.
Where would the kitchen be? Money would be saved by having a walk-through carport and entrance gone.

I find it difficult to imagine the solution of connecting the carport to the patio door right now.
The carport is actually the last thing we want to build, eventually (since it is not needed or rarely used at the moment), and if we do, it should connect seamlessly to the neighbor’s carport on the left property boundary (the “front door side”). I don’t think it would look good to build the carport in the middle of the plot and attached directly to the house.

I prefer the solution of raising the ground level up to the patio door height only in the terrace area and then paving a regular terrace there. Where the terrace ends, there would be a step down and the rest of the area would be built up to about 1 meter (3 feet) level or something similar.
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Machu Picchu
16 Oct 2022 11:28
Yosan schrieb:

You obviously had a different idea of the site based on the drawings than what actually happened or will happen.
So I’m asking (feel free to answer with some pictures): What was your vision for the entrance area, terrace, garden, view from the street, etc.?
Maybe some parts of it can still be realized.

The vision for everything was basically as drawn in post no. 20. But not with such an extreme height difference, which we only really felt when the house was built...
At the moment, I don’t really have another clear idea to put onto paper, but the brainstorming phase is just beginning.