ᐅ House extends above ground level – how much soil can be backfilled (with shallow basement)?

Created on: 15 Oct 2022 19:11
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Machu Picchu
Hello everyone,

we are now in the final phase of our house construction.

Because the sewage system on our property is not far below ground level and we did not install a sewage lift system, our basement was only excavated to a shallow depth.

The ceiling height of the basement rooms is 2.50m (8 feet 2 inches), as these areas are intended to be living spaces, unlike the neighboring houses, whose basement heights are lower.

As a result, our front door and the two patio doors are positioned much higher than those of the neighboring houses. In the next few days, soil will be filled up to the level of the terrace and front doors.

I do not want this to turn into a discussion about different construction methods; instead, I am looking for advice on how to best handle this somewhat unusual situation.

First, some photos:



Marked in red are the two patio doors. Soil will be filled up to just below these patio doors, except, of course, at light wells and shafts. The terrace will be paved around the corner, following the two indicated patio doors (because we wanted two sunny sides on the terrace for different times of the day). To the left of the single-leaf patio door (where the exterior plaster ends), a retaining wall will be built from the terrace level down to the ground.



This is a front view. On the left, the construction staircase leads up to the entrance door. The front door is at the same level as the two patio doors.



Here is the view from the back.



This is the view from the back toward the front door.



And here is another rear view including the neighboring houses.

As planned, as mentioned, soil will be filled up to the level of the house and terrace doors, and at this level the garden will be designed on the side of the large double patio door as well as behind the house, with steep slopes created just before the property boundary.

On the front door side, soil will also be filled up to front door level.

Toward the "front" (the side with the single patio door), the street level will be reached by terrace-like steps with 2-3 slope terraces supported by walls/granite.

Our concern now is: if we fill soil all around the house at door level on the side with the double patio door, at the back, and on the front door side, our garden height will be so high that, compared to the neighbors, our house will stand out significantly due to the very elevated ground level.

We are now considering ways to soften this.

One idea is to fill soil to door level only at the terrace wrapping the corner and directly at the front door, and to fill soil, for example, 50cm (20 inches) below door level everywhere else.

This way, the garden level would not be so dramatically higher than the neighbors’.

The problem with this is that we would partially expose the "basement" and areas without exterior plaster would become visible. We would likely need to hire a plasterer on our own to plaster additional areas and paint them with gray base paint. Time is tight because the soil will be delivered for filling within the next days/weeks. How long would such plastering take and what would it approximately cost?

Question to the forum: What do you think about this? Do you have other solutions? Or are our concerns unfounded?

Thank you very much in advance for any advice.
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Machu Picchu
16 Oct 2022 11:57
ypg schrieb:



You almost immediately rejected nearly all proposals spanning more than 10 pages.

I don’t see it that way, and if it seemed like that, it was misunderstood. For example, in post 32, I addressed 3 received proposals and asked further questions instead of rejecting them.
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Machu Picchu
16 Oct 2022 11:59
hanse987 schrieb:


Overall, I can only emphasize again: if you didn’t have a professional involved in the planning from the start, you urgently need to bring one on board now! This needs to be seen and assessed on site. Photos often don’t show the full reality. There might be simpler solutions, or there could be more challenges than the pictures reveal. I still consider drainage one of the most important topics.

... we will do that and keep an eye on the drainage issue.
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Machu Picchu
16 Oct 2022 12:31
hanse987 schrieb:


Do you also have a cross-section in the other direction showing the desired terrain profile?

Unfortunately, only hand-drawn.

Here is the view from the back:



The top line marked as point 1) represents the "Planned terrain at the new building." The middle line 2) shows the "Existing terrain at the property boundary." The bottom line marked 3) indicates the "Existing terrain at the new building."

View from the front (with a single-leaf patio door):



The top line marked as point 1) represents the "Planned terrain at the new building." The middle line 2) shows the "Existing terrain at the new building." The bottom line marked 3) indicates the "Existing terrain at the property boundary."
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WilderSueden
16 Oct 2022 12:33
When it comes to water, there are two issues. The first is erosion caused by heavy rainfall. The second problem is that after several days of continuous rain, the soil becomes saturated and muddy, which means it no longer holds well on the slope. How quickly this becomes a problem, of course, also depends heavily on the type of soil itself.
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driver55
16 Oct 2022 12:54
Machu Picchu schrieb:

Unfortunately, it’s just a hand-drawn copy.

Here is the view from the rear:



The top line labeled point 1) indicates the "Planned ground level at the new building." The middle line labeled point 2) shows the "Existing ground level at the property boundary." The bottom line labeled point 3) marks the "Existing ground level at the new building."

Front view (with a single-leaf patio door):



The top line labeled point 1) means "Planned ground level at the new building." The middle line labeled point 2) shows the "Existing ground level at the new building." The bottom line labeled point 3) indicates the "Existing ground level at the property boundary."

Is it exactly the same in the building permit / planning application?
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Machu Picchu
16 Oct 2022 13:09
driver55 schrieb:

And is it drawn exactly like that in the building permit / planning permission application?

Yes. It is drawn exactly like that there.