ᐅ Floor plan of a single-family house approximately 170 m², without a basement, featuring a carport
Created on: 6 Jun 2022 20:07
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SandyBlack
Questionnaire about your floor plan
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size 477 m² (5,134 ft²)
Slope No
Site coverage ratio 0.3
Floor area ratio 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary 14 x 14 meters (46 x 46 feet)
Setbacks South/North 5 m (16 ft); East/West 2.50 m (8 ft)
Number of parking spaces 2 (side by side)
Number of floors 2
Roof type Gable roof
Architectural style
Orientation East/West
Maximum heights / limits
Other regulations
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type Gable roof
Basement, floors No basement, 2 floors
Number of people, ages 3: 33, 32, and 1.5 years (4th planned)
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor
Ground floor: kitchen, living room, guest room, guest WC/shower, utility room, storage room, pantry
Upper floor: bathroom, laundry room, work corner, bedroom, 2 children’s rooms
Office: family use or home office? Home office 3 days per week
Guests per year approx. once a month grandparents visit overnight; plus approx. 3–6 additional visits per year
Open or closed architecture open
Conservative or modern construction modern?
Open kitchen, kitchen island open, island preferred but not a must
Number of dining seats
Fireplace No
Music/home cinema wall Guest room to include “cinema”; 7.2.4 speakers + screen or TV
Balcony, roof terrace No
Garage, carport Double carport (5.50 m wide x 6 m long (18 x 20 ft) + storage room (5.5 m wide x 3 m long [18 x 10 ft])
Utility garden, greenhouse No
House design
Who designed it:
- Architect Architect of the house supplier
What do you like most? Why? Open layout; living room somewhat separated; straight staircase (not a must); guest WC not directly by the entrance but nicely connected to guest room; long corridor upstairs for window seat and extra play area for children; large children’s rooms; large bathroom; appealing corner terrace solution possible (NW)
What don’t you like? Why? Pantry too small – probably not very practical this way; guest room too small – integrating cinema difficult; living room too narrow (3.50 m / 11.5 ft); only 1 m (3.3 ft) width between staircase and wall (too narrow?); guest WC big enough?; kitchen too small? Kitchen (half) island probably hard to implement well; no dedicated home office space
Estimated price according to architect/planner: 500,000
Personal price limit for house including fixtures: 550,000
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up, which details/extensions
- can you do without: straight staircase; guest WC not next to front door; kitchen island; possibly pantry accessible from kitchen; children’s rooms could be a bit smaller
- can’t you do without: guest room; open kitchen/dining area; guest WC with shower; home office space; bathroom with walk-in, level-access shower & bathtub
Why has the design turned out the way it is? E.g. standard design from planner? Developed jointly according to our wishes
What makes it especially good or bad in your view? Many of our wishes already implemented
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Are we overlooking anything fundamental? What changes should we make? Is a narrow corridor a big issue?
The carport is planned as a double carport on the south side adjoining the recess of the utility room. It is intended to be 5.5 m (18 ft) wide x 9 m (30 ft) long, including a storage room with a length of 3 m (10 ft). Is the planned width sufficient for two cars side by side assuming no SUVs? We plan to use a station wagon like a Skoda Superb and a small car such as a Mercedes A-Class or Toyota Leaf.
The carport positioning is planned as follows:
The house itself would be pushed fully to the eastern building boundary to maximize the western garden area.
The current floor plan from the architect looks like this:
We have already considered some optimizations.
Central to our considerations is adding a second recess on the north side where the living room is, measuring 1 m (3.3 ft) long and 4 m (13 ft) wide, and including a laundry room on the upper floor to house washer and dryer.
This would allow reducing the size of the utility room on the ground floor significantly. We would shorten the utility room by 0.7 m (2.3 ft), leaving about 9 m² (97 ft²). The freed-up space would benefit the guest WC, guest room, and living room.
In the kitchen, we would like to extend the pantry fully along the wall and place the kitchen before it. We have tried to mark our ideas on the floor plan:
Is the kitchen large enough for a household of 3 to 4 people? An island solution will probably be difficult to realize, right?
Upstairs, the gained space from the recess would be used for the laundry room. In the plan shown below, we placed the study next to the laundry room; however, we have reconsidered and now prefer to position the work corner where the storage space currently is. The work corner doesn’t need much space, primarily just a desk about 1.60 m (5.2 ft) wide. If there is room for a small cabinet, that’s nice but not essential. Where we marked the study, we would instead plan a walk-in closet. Unfortunately, we have not found a better location for the work corner. We also considered moving it near the children’s rooms, but then the child bedrooms would probably become rather small (about 12–13 m² / 130–140 ft²). These will definitely be adjusted to the same size regardless.
Maybe you have some ideas.
The windows on the ground and upper floor are not finalized yet; these are currently placeholders.
We welcome all comments 🙂.
P.S.: Here is the old planning thread:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/bebauung-Grundstück-keller-ja-oder-nein.42556/
The planning has fundamentally changed since then, and the plot has meanwhile been remeasured.
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size 477 m² (5,134 ft²)
Slope No
Site coverage ratio 0.3
Floor area ratio 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary 14 x 14 meters (46 x 46 feet)
Setbacks South/North 5 m (16 ft); East/West 2.50 m (8 ft)
Number of parking spaces 2 (side by side)
Number of floors 2
Roof type Gable roof
Architectural style
Orientation East/West
Maximum heights / limits
Other regulations
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type Gable roof
Basement, floors No basement, 2 floors
Number of people, ages 3: 33, 32, and 1.5 years (4th planned)
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor
Ground floor: kitchen, living room, guest room, guest WC/shower, utility room, storage room, pantry
Upper floor: bathroom, laundry room, work corner, bedroom, 2 children’s rooms
Office: family use or home office? Home office 3 days per week
Guests per year approx. once a month grandparents visit overnight; plus approx. 3–6 additional visits per year
Open or closed architecture open
Conservative or modern construction modern?
Open kitchen, kitchen island open, island preferred but not a must
Number of dining seats
Fireplace No
Music/home cinema wall Guest room to include “cinema”; 7.2.4 speakers + screen or TV
Balcony, roof terrace No
Garage, carport Double carport (5.50 m wide x 6 m long (18 x 20 ft) + storage room (5.5 m wide x 3 m long [18 x 10 ft])
Utility garden, greenhouse No
House design
Who designed it:
- Architect Architect of the house supplier
What do you like most? Why? Open layout; living room somewhat separated; straight staircase (not a must); guest WC not directly by the entrance but nicely connected to guest room; long corridor upstairs for window seat and extra play area for children; large children’s rooms; large bathroom; appealing corner terrace solution possible (NW)
What don’t you like? Why? Pantry too small – probably not very practical this way; guest room too small – integrating cinema difficult; living room too narrow (3.50 m / 11.5 ft); only 1 m (3.3 ft) width between staircase and wall (too narrow?); guest WC big enough?; kitchen too small? Kitchen (half) island probably hard to implement well; no dedicated home office space
Estimated price according to architect/planner: 500,000
Personal price limit for house including fixtures: 550,000
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up, which details/extensions
- can you do without: straight staircase; guest WC not next to front door; kitchen island; possibly pantry accessible from kitchen; children’s rooms could be a bit smaller
- can’t you do without: guest room; open kitchen/dining area; guest WC with shower; home office space; bathroom with walk-in, level-access shower & bathtub
Why has the design turned out the way it is? E.g. standard design from planner? Developed jointly according to our wishes
What makes it especially good or bad in your view? Many of our wishes already implemented
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Are we overlooking anything fundamental? What changes should we make? Is a narrow corridor a big issue?
The carport is planned as a double carport on the south side adjoining the recess of the utility room. It is intended to be 5.5 m (18 ft) wide x 9 m (30 ft) long, including a storage room with a length of 3 m (10 ft). Is the planned width sufficient for two cars side by side assuming no SUVs? We plan to use a station wagon like a Skoda Superb and a small car such as a Mercedes A-Class or Toyota Leaf.
The carport positioning is planned as follows:
The house itself would be pushed fully to the eastern building boundary to maximize the western garden area.
The current floor plan from the architect looks like this:
We have already considered some optimizations.
Central to our considerations is adding a second recess on the north side where the living room is, measuring 1 m (3.3 ft) long and 4 m (13 ft) wide, and including a laundry room on the upper floor to house washer and dryer.
This would allow reducing the size of the utility room on the ground floor significantly. We would shorten the utility room by 0.7 m (2.3 ft), leaving about 9 m² (97 ft²). The freed-up space would benefit the guest WC, guest room, and living room.
In the kitchen, we would like to extend the pantry fully along the wall and place the kitchen before it. We have tried to mark our ideas on the floor plan:
Is the kitchen large enough for a household of 3 to 4 people? An island solution will probably be difficult to realize, right?
Upstairs, the gained space from the recess would be used for the laundry room. In the plan shown below, we placed the study next to the laundry room; however, we have reconsidered and now prefer to position the work corner where the storage space currently is. The work corner doesn’t need much space, primarily just a desk about 1.60 m (5.2 ft) wide. If there is room for a small cabinet, that’s nice but not essential. Where we marked the study, we would instead plan a walk-in closet. Unfortunately, we have not found a better location for the work corner. We also considered moving it near the children’s rooms, but then the child bedrooms would probably become rather small (about 12–13 m² / 130–140 ft²). These will definitely be adjusted to the same size regardless.
Maybe you have some ideas.
The windows on the ground and upper floor are not finalized yet; these are currently placeholders.
We welcome all comments 🙂.
P.S.: Here is the old planning thread:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/bebauung-Grundstück-keller-ja-oder-nein.42556/
The planning has fundamentally changed since then, and the plot has meanwhile been remeasured.
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SandyBlack6 Jun 2022 23:11K a t j a schrieb:
Yes, if I were planning my dream house for half a million, somehow yes. But it’s always relative. In a house with a footprint of 9x8 meters (30x26 feet), it would be perfectly reasonable. But not at your size. Also, the width should not be considered independently from the length of the room. The tunnel feeling when entering the room feels uncomfortable and also wastes space. I understand that argument. We’ll have to reconsider it.
K a t j a schrieb:
Calling the strips of land on the left and right side of the house a garden – okay, you’d have 6.5 meters (21 feet) if you build far to the east. That’s not nothing, but I wouldn’t plan a terrace there. Whatever the neighbor says, I would assume that a house could be built to the west. Well, honestly, we planned a corner terrace in the west/north corner. We know that 6.5 meters (21 feet) is not much. But we don’t see a way to create a significantly wider garden — except to the north. Although even there, the maximum will probably be around 8 to 9 meters (26 to 30 feet). So the garden will be rather long than wide — not ideal, but as I said, we don’t really see another option.
K a t j a schrieb:
Did I miss something? Sorry, I made a mistake. I meant there is always shade in the north and sun in the west until late in the evening.
K a t j a schrieb:
Yes, it’s problematic in the hallway if Mom and Dad constantly have to step around the Matchbox cars. What for? Scrolling on the phone is fine, but I don’t see how you can fit a slot car track in there. That’s true.
K a t j a schrieb:
Of course, a west-facing garden would be nicer. The question is, when does a garden start and where does a strip of greenery end? If the western part of the plot remains undeveloped for a while, you could consider planning a terrace there. Basically, I would assume the terrace will end up in the north – simply because the space right next to the garden fence with 2.5 meters (8 feet) to the neighbor wouldn’t be very private once something is built there.
To be more specific: I would always plan my house so that the contiguous garden area is as large as possible, to have a nice green space around the terrace and maximum distance to all neighbors. But I admit that with 477 square meters (5130 square feet) and a north orientation, this is debatable. 😀 Our plot isn’t large. We always struggle with the fact that it won’t be very private. But on the other hand, if I look at new developments, it can be even worse there 😉. If we had 6.5 meters (21 feet) of garden to the west and a terrace 3 meters (10 feet) wide, for example, there would still be 3.5 meters (11 feet) of distance to the neighbor’s fence. Not great, but honestly, if the terrace is only to the north, we would really miss the sun.
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SandyBlack6 Jun 2022 23:17ypg schrieb:
Personally, I would probably build on the eastern side and make full use of the 14-meter (46 feet) length more or less. But wouldn’t that mean the garden would be on the west and north sides?
ypg schrieb:
Or completely to the north in a transverse layout. Then make the house as narrow as possible. You really have to put a lot of passion into the planning! You probably won’t be happy with a standard design on the fly. Could you please explain what you mean by that? Where would you place the driveway then?
ypg schrieb:
There is a related thread by @Samsonite who has almost the same issue with a similar orientation. Thanks for the tip, I’ll check that out.
SandyBlack schrieb:
and in the west, there is sun until late in the evening.
If there is a house there, there is exactly zero sun. The sun sets in the west and is low on the horizon – don’t forget.S
SandyBlack6 Jun 2022 23:47That’s true. A house would block a lot of sunlight. However, there is generally little sun in the north, and creating a garden on the south side is challenging due to the two parking spaces we want to have side by side.
Here is a user report about having a north-facing garden.
I grew up in a house with a north or north-northeast-facing garden (the ridge roughly aligned west-east, just slightly rotated). The first about 4 meters (13 feet) from the house actually receive no sunlight. After that, it depends on the season, but in summer, there is usually constant sunlight behind that. First because the sun is so high in the sky, and then because it moves westward past the house. I believe there is a short period when the house actually blocks the sun. The clear advantage of a north-facing terrace is definitely that you can avoid unwanted shading.
Of course, it also always depends on the neighboring buildings. If there is a house blocking the west side, obviously no sunlight will get through there.
I grew up in a house with a north or north-northeast-facing garden (the ridge roughly aligned west-east, just slightly rotated). The first about 4 meters (13 feet) from the house actually receive no sunlight. After that, it depends on the season, but in summer, there is usually constant sunlight behind that. First because the sun is so high in the sky, and then because it moves westward past the house. I believe there is a short period when the house actually blocks the sun. The clear advantage of a north-facing terrace is definitely that you can avoid unwanted shading.
Of course, it also always depends on the neighboring buildings. If there is a house blocking the west side, obviously no sunlight will get through there.
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SandyBlack7 Jun 2022 07:27Well, a distance of 5 meters (16 feet) to the north definitely means there can never be a house to the west, since that is specified in the development plan. But that would also mean the terrace would never get any sun. I’m not sure I like that idea.
Another question:
What do you think about having the carport extend over the front door, with the cars parked right next to the entrance? Does anyone have experience with this? Is it problematic? Of course, the south side won’t receive any natural light where the carport is located…
Unfortunately, we can’t come up with any other way to build the carport. Maybe someone here has another suggestion.
Another question:
What do you think about having the carport extend over the front door, with the cars parked right next to the entrance? Does anyone have experience with this? Is it problematic? Of course, the south side won’t receive any natural light where the carport is located…
Unfortunately, we can’t come up with any other way to build the carport. Maybe someone here has another suggestion.
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