ᐅ If a second full story is not built in the attic, the building depth equals the building width.
Created on: 6 Feb 2022 19:43
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Melinaaa
Hello everyone,
We are planning a townhouse with a ground floor, first floor (without sloping walls), and an attic.
Does the above text mean that our house must be as wide as it is long?
However, our floor plan measures 9 x 11 meters (30 x 36 feet)... Do you know if there is any flexibility regarding this?
And another question:
We are building in a new residential development and purchasing a serviced plot of land. Are the road construction costs included in this, or will they be charged separately at the end? (This could be a disadvantage for a corner plot.)
Thanks!!
We are planning a townhouse with a ground floor, first floor (without sloping walls), and an attic.
Does the above text mean that our house must be as wide as it is long?
However, our floor plan measures 9 x 11 meters (30 x 36 feet)... Do you know if there is any flexibility regarding this?
And another question:
We are building in a new residential development and purchasing a serviced plot of land. Are the road construction costs included in this, or will they be charged separately at the end? (This could be a disadvantage for a corner plot.)
Thanks!!
Melinaaa schrieb:
Okay, then you would really need to talk to a lawyer there, unfortunately our floor plan wouldn’t work like that....
I think that would be a waste of money. Even if the wording in the zoning plan wasn’t legally binding, you probably still wouldn’t get a building permit / planning permission. You’ve already stirred up some trouble, so they will definitely scrutinize your next request closely. Before threatening with a lawyer, first send the architect. That will probably be more effective.
...you always meet twice in life.
And if I worked at the city hall, I would have everything thoroughly checked after the construction by the plaintiff.
There is definitely something that can be found and then has to be costly dismantled or modified...
What goes around, comes around...
And if I worked at the city hall, I would have everything thoroughly checked after the construction by the plaintiff.
There is definitely something that can be found and then has to be costly dismantled or modified...
What goes around, comes around...
Melinaaa schrieb:
Okay, in that case you really should consult a lawyer, unfortunately our floor plan wouldn’t work like that....No, as I already said, 11ant schrieb:
we’re still talking about a hefty 800 square meters that the applicant is allowed to buy.Under these circumstances, you should rather question your architect very carefully why the floor plan doesn’t work. You won’t find better conditions right now. Shame on any floor plan that still fails here! K a t j a schrieb:
I don’t find the rule that arbitrary. The square shape in a two-story house reminds me of the classic “coffee grinder” houses.No, the square floor plan is less typical of a historic city villa and more characteristic of a modern imitation villa. And the justification in the development plan—scandalously, however, not related to the reason for the squareness, but mentioned elsewhere without connection—talks about city villas that “should not look like disguised multi-family houses.” They wouldn’t, even with a floor plan ratio of 11:9. Characteristic for the modern imitation villa would rather be—though not required here!—a hip roof and an exaggerated symmetry (but with an L-shaped porch!). The Romans of all countries are crazy (if I may mix Marx and Asterix here). Ever since garden gnomes started making development plans, more and more nonsense has come out of it.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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11ant schrieb:
No, the square floor plan is less typical for historic city villas and more typical for modern pseudo-villas. This time, unfortunately, I can’t agree with you, and I have quite a bit of experience. The Dresden coffee grinders are famous precisely because of their square shape (and their distinctive pyramid-shaped roof). I’m not very good at history, but I would argue that they can be considered historic buildings.
11ant schrieb:
And the justification of the development plan — scandalously, however, not explaining the square shape but addressing an unrelated topic elsewhere — mentions city villas that “should not look like disguised apartment buildings.” Excuse me, what?
Melinaaa schrieb:
By goodwill, I meant that you can’t really plan to be exactly the same length/width down to one meter (3 feet)Huh? Why shouldn’t you be able to do that?K a t j a schrieb:
This time, unfortunately, I can’t follow you either, and I have several years of experience. The Dresden coffee grinders are precisely known for their squareness (and their distinctive tent-shaped roof). I was talking about the urban villa (not in the neo sense), not explicitly about the coffee grinder. The urban villa was originally not strictly square; that only came with the so-called "Anstattvilla."
K a t j a schrieb:
Excuse me, what? On page 16 of the 75-page development plan justification, it seriously states: "The differing construction method is intended to ensure that in the planning area, if two-story buildings are erected, they visually resemble typical urban villas and not disguised multi-family houses, which would contradict the desired local character in this subarea." I have no words.
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