ᐅ Which planning do you consider successful – initial thoughts – your ideas

Created on: 25 Feb 2021 09:11
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J.H.S.H.
Hello everyone,

First of all, compliments to the forum—I have already read many interesting and helpful topics. Now I would like to ask you for advice:

About us: We (I am 30, she is 27) come from the beautiful Franconian Switzerland region and own a family plot on the outskirts of town. We are slowly starting to think about how to ideally plan a single-family house there and look forward to your input and ideas:
- Which design do you prefer the most?
- Would you orient the house differently?
- Where do you see potential issues? (border construction, distances, sun/shade, etc.)
- What additional information do you need to better assess the plans? (I will do my best and hope to provide a lot of input)

About the plot:
- Cadastral parcel 269/5
- No zoning plan / land-use plan available, building according to §34 (German building law)
- Slight slope towards the forest (details in image)
- The neighboring parcel 269 to the west might still be developed (not yet connected to infrastructure but designated as a building area)
- Forest to the south/west causes late sunrise and early sunset in winter (some say it’s a winter sun gap)

About the planning / our ideas:
- Single-family house with pitched roof at 20-30°, 160-200 sq m (1720-2150 sq ft) of living space, country house style or city villa (not finalized yet)
- Basement for technical equipment, utility room, and a separate apartment (so the children have their own retreat later)
- Space for a large family (we hope to have 2-4 children)
- House oriented as much as possible toward the north/east
- House raised as much as possible out of the ground to make good use of the basement (light well/trench)
- Maximize sunlight (we love the sun and enjoy every ray that reaches the plot and the house, having grown up on a south-facing slope)
- As a hobby carpenter, I would like space for a workshop (about 40 sq m (430 sq ft))
- Wood storage in the form of a beam shelter as a privacy screen towards the neighbor (my uncle), because his garden/pigeon/chicken coop view is not the nicest.

Aerial photo of an undeveloped plot approx. 780 sq m (8400 sq ft), about 34 m × 23 m (112 ft × 75 ft), adjacent to the street

Excerpt from cadastral map: pink parcels 269, 269/5, 269/4, green paths, yellow areas.

Thoughts on Plan A:
- House facing north/east with a 5 m (16 ft) wide courtyard in front of the entrance and the workshop adjacent as a border building (is this allowed?)
- Garage in front towards the street with a wide driveway for maneuvering (later room for an additional parking space)
- Garage at street level on the east side (+/-0 m)
- House at street level on the west side (+1.2 m (4 ft))

Plan A: Site plan with house, workshop, terrace, courtyard, garage, and parking space.

Thoughts on Plan B:
- Similar to A but with garage and workshop swapped:
Advantage: short distance from garage to house (you stay dry)
Disadvantage: house moves further away from north/east (loss of garden space on the west side)

Aerial site plan of plot with garage, house, terrace, workshop, and parking space.

Thoughts on Plan C:
- House completely in the north/east corner
- Garage in front of the house at street level (+0.3 m (1 ft))
- Workshop at street level (+0.3 m (1 ft))
- Entrance between garage and workshop
- Covered walkway from garage to house
- Basement entrance on the east side

Plan C: Floor plan with house 11x9 m (36x30 ft), garage 6x7 m (20x23 ft), workshop 6x7 m (20x23 ft), driveway, terrace 4x4 m (13x13 ft), parking space 3x5 m (10x16 ft)


THANK YOU very much in advance for your ideas and comments
Sunny regards, Johannes


Wide grass field with forest in the background; street on the left, wire fence on the right.


Open field with edge path, post on the left, hill in the background, red text indicating view to the north.


Green field with molehills, path at the edge, forest in the background, visible sun.


Large field with path edge on the left, row of trees in the background, greenhouses on the right, blue sky.
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J.H.S.H.
26 Feb 2021 12:14
My father did the same with the attic conversion; when children three and four were on the way, the attic was converted specifically for that purpose, and now there is a nice apartment there. An attic conversion using drywall construction should not be a problem, and it is a task that does not necessarily have to be done in the first few years.
Malunga schrieb:

With around 150k equity at 30...
I have wanted a house for a very long time and have been saving money since my apprenticeship (initially in a savings account, now in ETFs and so on). I prefer to plan a bit longer so everything is well thought out; that’s why I shared my initial thoughts here, and I’m already much further along than I imagined two days ago :-)
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icandoit
26 Feb 2021 12:22
I really like @ypg’s design.

My formula for cost calculation wasn’t that far off after all.

Instead of the wooden slats, a privacy fence would work just as well.
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icandoit
26 Feb 2021 12:52
In option D, the roof of the carport can be extended to the house, and if desired, a skylight can be installed in the area of the WC. This offers significant structural advantages.
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ypg
26 Feb 2021 13:31
icandoit schrieb:

With option D, you can extend the carport roof all the way to the house and, if desired, include a skylight in the bathroom area. This offers significant structural advantages.

That was the idea with the carport as well. As for the bathroom, we need to see if it can be positioned at the corner.
I like this shed solution a lot: it creates a space between the house and the shed where children can play safely or where you can host a garden party. Maybe add a trellis or a small tree there, placed where it won’t block the sun.
If the parents live upstairs at first until the second child arrives, the basement expansion can remain a living space for now. When the third child comes, the parents can move down to the basement later.
There is also plenty of sunny garden space available.
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icandoit
26 Feb 2021 15:04
ypg schrieb:

The carport was intended that way as well. The bathroom... we need to see if it can be placed in the corner.

However, an office in the corner makes more sense, since a large window is possible there.

I am looking forward to the architect's design. Hopefully, the original poster doesn’t show the drafts to the planner beforehand.
11ant26 Feb 2021 15:26
icandoit schrieb:

I’m curious to see the architect’s design. Hopefully, the original poster doesn’t show the drafts to the planner beforehand.
Well, an architect can quite easily just tune it out, but it’s more risky with a main contractor’s lackey.
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