ᐅ Which planning do you consider successful – initial thoughts – your ideas
Created on: 25 Feb 2021 09:11
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J.H.S.H.
Hello everyone,
First of all, compliments to the forum—I have already read many interesting and helpful topics. Now I would like to ask you for advice:
About us: We (I am 30, she is 27) come from the beautiful Franconian Switzerland region and own a family plot on the outskirts of town. We are slowly starting to think about how to ideally plan a single-family house there and look forward to your input and ideas:
- Which design do you prefer the most?
- Would you orient the house differently?
- Where do you see potential issues? (border construction, distances, sun/shade, etc.)
- What additional information do you need to better assess the plans? (I will do my best and hope to provide a lot of input)
About the plot:
- Cadastral parcel 269/5
- No zoning plan / land-use plan available, building according to §34 (German building law)
- Slight slope towards the forest (details in image)
- The neighboring parcel 269 to the west might still be developed (not yet connected to infrastructure but designated as a building area)
- Forest to the south/west causes late sunrise and early sunset in winter (some say it’s a winter sun gap)
About the planning / our ideas:
- Single-family house with pitched roof at 20-30°, 160-200 sq m (1720-2150 sq ft) of living space, country house style or city villa (not finalized yet)
- Basement for technical equipment, utility room, and a separate apartment (so the children have their own retreat later)
- Space for a large family (we hope to have 2-4 children)
- House oriented as much as possible toward the north/east
- House raised as much as possible out of the ground to make good use of the basement (light well/trench)
- Maximize sunlight (we love the sun and enjoy every ray that reaches the plot and the house, having grown up on a south-facing slope)
- As a hobby carpenter, I would like space for a workshop (about 40 sq m (430 sq ft))
- Wood storage in the form of a beam shelter as a privacy screen towards the neighbor (my uncle), because his garden/pigeon/chicken coop view is not the nicest.
Thoughts on Plan A:
- House facing north/east with a 5 m (16 ft) wide courtyard in front of the entrance and the workshop adjacent as a border building (is this allowed?)
- Garage in front towards the street with a wide driveway for maneuvering (later room for an additional parking space)
- Garage at street level on the east side (+/-0 m)
- House at street level on the west side (+1.2 m (4 ft))
Thoughts on Plan B:
- Similar to A but with garage and workshop swapped:
Advantage: short distance from garage to house (you stay dry)
Disadvantage: house moves further away from north/east (loss of garden space on the west side)
Thoughts on Plan C:
- House completely in the north/east corner
- Garage in front of the house at street level (+0.3 m (1 ft))
- Workshop at street level (+0.3 m (1 ft))
- Entrance between garage and workshop
- Covered walkway from garage to house
- Basement entrance on the east side
THANK YOU very much in advance for your ideas and comments
Sunny regards, Johannes
First of all, compliments to the forum—I have already read many interesting and helpful topics. Now I would like to ask you for advice:
About us: We (I am 30, she is 27) come from the beautiful Franconian Switzerland region and own a family plot on the outskirts of town. We are slowly starting to think about how to ideally plan a single-family house there and look forward to your input and ideas:
- Which design do you prefer the most?
- Would you orient the house differently?
- Where do you see potential issues? (border construction, distances, sun/shade, etc.)
- What additional information do you need to better assess the plans? (I will do my best and hope to provide a lot of input)
About the plot:
- Cadastral parcel 269/5
- No zoning plan / land-use plan available, building according to §34 (German building law)
- Slight slope towards the forest (details in image)
- The neighboring parcel 269 to the west might still be developed (not yet connected to infrastructure but designated as a building area)
- Forest to the south/west causes late sunrise and early sunset in winter (some say it’s a winter sun gap)
About the planning / our ideas:
- Single-family house with pitched roof at 20-30°, 160-200 sq m (1720-2150 sq ft) of living space, country house style or city villa (not finalized yet)
- Basement for technical equipment, utility room, and a separate apartment (so the children have their own retreat later)
- Space for a large family (we hope to have 2-4 children)
- House oriented as much as possible toward the north/east
- House raised as much as possible out of the ground to make good use of the basement (light well/trench)
- Maximize sunlight (we love the sun and enjoy every ray that reaches the plot and the house, having grown up on a south-facing slope)
- As a hobby carpenter, I would like space for a workshop (about 40 sq m (430 sq ft))
- Wood storage in the form of a beam shelter as a privacy screen towards the neighbor (my uncle), because his garden/pigeon/chicken coop view is not the nicest.
Thoughts on Plan A:
- House facing north/east with a 5 m (16 ft) wide courtyard in front of the entrance and the workshop adjacent as a border building (is this allowed?)
- Garage in front towards the street with a wide driveway for maneuvering (later room for an additional parking space)
- Garage at street level on the east side (+/-0 m)
- House at street level on the west side (+1.2 m (4 ft))
Thoughts on Plan B:
- Similar to A but with garage and workshop swapped:
Advantage: short distance from garage to house (you stay dry)
Disadvantage: house moves further away from north/east (loss of garden space on the west side)
Thoughts on Plan C:
- House completely in the north/east corner
- Garage in front of the house at street level (+0.3 m (1 ft))
- Workshop at street level (+0.3 m (1 ft))
- Entrance between garage and workshop
- Covered walkway from garage to house
- Basement entrance on the east side
THANK YOU very much in advance for your ideas and comments
Sunny regards, Johannes
motorradsilke schrieb:
Workshop at the top of the plan right on the property boundary to the uncle’s land, garage to the left side of the plan directly next to the workshopThen you end up with a very long driveway again. Building right up to the property boundary like that is not really ideal.
@ypg
Of course, four children’s bedrooms or four sleeping rooms need to fit on one level.
In your proposal, you only had 140 square meters (1,507 sq ft) of living space spread over two full floors.
I’m not sure if the ground floor will be large enough. The wardrobe, table, and sofa need to be planned somewhat bigger than for just four people, and the kitchen shouldn’t be too small either. One oven and a four-burner cooktop won’t be sufficient. My friend sometimes uses two ovens or cooktops. Pots, bowls, and everything else are larger too.
Of course, four children’s bedrooms or four sleeping rooms need to fit on one level.
In your proposal, you only had 140 square meters (1,507 sq ft) of living space spread over two full floors.
I’m not sure if the ground floor will be large enough. The wardrobe, table, and sofa need to be planned somewhat bigger than for just four people, and the kitchen shouldn’t be too small either. One oven and a four-burner cooktop won’t be sufficient. My friend sometimes uses two ovens or cooktops. Pots, bowls, and everything else are larger too.
We have also considered orienting the terrace towards the northwest, but we would need to check when and how far the forest to the west casts shadows. As a teenager, I liked mowing the lawn in the evenings when there was usually some shade.
Once the budget is set, I think I can determine the size of the house. Around 160+ sqm (1,722+ sq ft) would be nice, but we’ll see if it’s feasible.
Once the budget is set, I think I can determine the size of the house. Around 160+ sqm (1,722+ sq ft) would be nice, but we’ll see if it’s feasible.
haydee schrieb:
I’m not sure the ground floor will be large enough. The cloakroom, table, and sofa all need to be planned bigger than for four people, and the kitchen shouldn’t be too small either. You can’t get very far with just one oven and a four-burner cooktop. My friend sometimes uses two ovens or cooktops. Pots, bowls, everything is bigger. Then you have to extend later. As I understand it, that’s the plan. There isn’t even a child yet. Installing two stoves as a couple doesn’t really make sense 😉
Here people want something big, but the development will take place over 20 years. So none of it is really possible anyway. The problem here is that the basement is fixed because of the slope running across the site.
Building an extension is not cheap.
I suggested a gable roof with two additional bedrooms if needed. This should be done fairly quickly with a few friends and the costs should be reasonable.
I would have planned the kitchen, dining, and living areas to be spacious enough from the start. No, not necessarily with double appliances. Just enough connections.
I suggested a gable roof with two additional bedrooms if needed. This should be done fairly quickly with a few friends and the costs should be reasonable.
I would have planned the kitchen, dining, and living areas to be spacious enough from the start. No, not necessarily with double appliances. Just enough connections.