ᐅ Which planning do you consider successful – initial thoughts – your ideas
Created on: 25 Feb 2021 09:11
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J.H.S.H.
Hello everyone,
First of all, compliments to the forum—I have already read many interesting and helpful topics. Now I would like to ask you for advice:
About us: We (I am 30, she is 27) come from the beautiful Franconian Switzerland region and own a family plot on the outskirts of town. We are slowly starting to think about how to ideally plan a single-family house there and look forward to your input and ideas:
- Which design do you prefer the most?
- Would you orient the house differently?
- Where do you see potential issues? (border construction, distances, sun/shade, etc.)
- What additional information do you need to better assess the plans? (I will do my best and hope to provide a lot of input)
About the plot:
- Cadastral parcel 269/5
- No zoning plan / land-use plan available, building according to §34 (German building law)
- Slight slope towards the forest (details in image)
- The neighboring parcel 269 to the west might still be developed (not yet connected to infrastructure but designated as a building area)
- Forest to the south/west causes late sunrise and early sunset in winter (some say it’s a winter sun gap)
About the planning / our ideas:
- Single-family house with pitched roof at 20-30°, 160-200 sq m (1720-2150 sq ft) of living space, country house style or city villa (not finalized yet)
- Basement for technical equipment, utility room, and a separate apartment (so the children have their own retreat later)
- Space for a large family (we hope to have 2-4 children)
- House oriented as much as possible toward the north/east
- House raised as much as possible out of the ground to make good use of the basement (light well/trench)
- Maximize sunlight (we love the sun and enjoy every ray that reaches the plot and the house, having grown up on a south-facing slope)
- As a hobby carpenter, I would like space for a workshop (about 40 sq m (430 sq ft))
- Wood storage in the form of a beam shelter as a privacy screen towards the neighbor (my uncle), because his garden/pigeon/chicken coop view is not the nicest.
Thoughts on Plan A:
- House facing north/east with a 5 m (16 ft) wide courtyard in front of the entrance and the workshop adjacent as a border building (is this allowed?)
- Garage in front towards the street with a wide driveway for maneuvering (later room for an additional parking space)
- Garage at street level on the east side (+/-0 m)
- House at street level on the west side (+1.2 m (4 ft))
Thoughts on Plan B:
- Similar to A but with garage and workshop swapped:
Advantage: short distance from garage to house (you stay dry)
Disadvantage: house moves further away from north/east (loss of garden space on the west side)
Thoughts on Plan C:
- House completely in the north/east corner
- Garage in front of the house at street level (+0.3 m (1 ft))
- Workshop at street level (+0.3 m (1 ft))
- Entrance between garage and workshop
- Covered walkway from garage to house
- Basement entrance on the east side
THANK YOU very much in advance for your ideas and comments
Sunny regards, Johannes
First of all, compliments to the forum—I have already read many interesting and helpful topics. Now I would like to ask you for advice:
About us: We (I am 30, she is 27) come from the beautiful Franconian Switzerland region and own a family plot on the outskirts of town. We are slowly starting to think about how to ideally plan a single-family house there and look forward to your input and ideas:
- Which design do you prefer the most?
- Would you orient the house differently?
- Where do you see potential issues? (border construction, distances, sun/shade, etc.)
- What additional information do you need to better assess the plans? (I will do my best and hope to provide a lot of input)
About the plot:
- Cadastral parcel 269/5
- No zoning plan / land-use plan available, building according to §34 (German building law)
- Slight slope towards the forest (details in image)
- The neighboring parcel 269 to the west might still be developed (not yet connected to infrastructure but designated as a building area)
- Forest to the south/west causes late sunrise and early sunset in winter (some say it’s a winter sun gap)
About the planning / our ideas:
- Single-family house with pitched roof at 20-30°, 160-200 sq m (1720-2150 sq ft) of living space, country house style or city villa (not finalized yet)
- Basement for technical equipment, utility room, and a separate apartment (so the children have their own retreat later)
- Space for a large family (we hope to have 2-4 children)
- House oriented as much as possible toward the north/east
- House raised as much as possible out of the ground to make good use of the basement (light well/trench)
- Maximize sunlight (we love the sun and enjoy every ray that reaches the plot and the house, having grown up on a south-facing slope)
- As a hobby carpenter, I would like space for a workshop (about 40 sq m (430 sq ft))
- Wood storage in the form of a beam shelter as a privacy screen towards the neighbor (my uncle), because his garden/pigeon/chicken coop view is not the nicest.
Thoughts on Plan A:
- House facing north/east with a 5 m (16 ft) wide courtyard in front of the entrance and the workshop adjacent as a border building (is this allowed?)
- Garage in front towards the street with a wide driveway for maneuvering (later room for an additional parking space)
- Garage at street level on the east side (+/-0 m)
- House at street level on the west side (+1.2 m (4 ft))
Thoughts on Plan B:
- Similar to A but with garage and workshop swapped:
Advantage: short distance from garage to house (you stay dry)
Disadvantage: house moves further away from north/east (loss of garden space on the west side)
Thoughts on Plan C:
- House completely in the north/east corner
- Garage in front of the house at street level (+0.3 m (1 ft))
- Workshop at street level (+0.3 m (1 ft))
- Entrance between garage and workshop
- Covered walkway from garage to house
- Basement entrance on the east side
THANK YOU very much in advance for your ideas and comments
Sunny regards, Johannes
I have now placed budget planning at the very top of the list and understand that we must not overstretch ourselves :-) As you already mentioned, we should settle this before Planning Phase 2.0.
Currently, I am still trying to figure out how to make the best use of the plot, and right now I am more focused on the optimal orientation and location, independent of the budget. So more from the perspective of:
- this is possible
- I don’t think this is good / I think this is good
- this is not allowed
- I am considering the following...
- ...
Currently, I am still trying to figure out how to make the best use of the plot, and right now I am more focused on the optimal orientation and location, independent of the budget. So more from the perspective of:
- this is possible
- I don’t think this is good / I think this is good
- this is not allowed
- I am considering the following...
- ...
The budget is overly optimistic, even with some personal labor involved.
Building the garage yourself using only materials sounds like a good idea.
Anything left over from the budget will have to be covered from your regular income. The 3000 for the bricks is already a major obstacle.
Filling is not just about spreading soil. You need to contain it; you need to secure it. How much benefit do you actually get for that money?
Plan smaller. Move away from “if maybe” or “it would be nice.”
Build only as much as is really necessary for 4 to 6 people.
If there is money left over, you can always add this or that later.
Don’t plan too tightly. Especially with your family plans, you need some breathing room.
What bothers me about option A:
the long driveway
the undeveloped fields at the back
the wall towards the uncle’s property
the garage is relatively far from the house. Probably there will always be a car parked in front of the workshop.
What bothers me about option B:
the long driveway
the undeveloped fields at the back
the wall towards the uncle’s property
the garage makes more sense there.
I don’t like option C at all.
With A through C, I see issues with the building line.
Building the garage yourself using only materials sounds like a good idea.
Anything left over from the budget will have to be covered from your regular income. The 3000 for the bricks is already a major obstacle.
Filling is not just about spreading soil. You need to contain it; you need to secure it. How much benefit do you actually get for that money?
Plan smaller. Move away from “if maybe” or “it would be nice.”
Build only as much as is really necessary for 4 to 6 people.
If there is money left over, you can always add this or that later.
Don’t plan too tightly. Especially with your family plans, you need some breathing room.
What bothers me about option A:
the long driveway
the undeveloped fields at the back
the wall towards the uncle’s property
the garage is relatively far from the house. Probably there will always be a car parked in front of the workshop.
What bothers me about option B:
the long driveway
the undeveloped fields at the back
the wall towards the uncle’s property
the garage makes more sense there.
I don’t like option C at all.
With A through C, I see issues with the building line.
haydee schrieb:
I would design the house elongated and shift it more toward the uncle's side and closer to the street.Could you briefly sketch that for me? How far forward would you plan to place the house? That means leaving out the workshop for now, and if there is money later, I could still build it... It could also be 2–3 years after. A basement yes, but not necessarily a living basement, that point is clear. I’d prefer to convert the attic later and add an extra room there. What do you mean by unobstructed fields at the back?
When you mention the wall toward the uncle, do you mean the wooden fence? How else could the view of the “nice” neighbor’s garden be made more appealing?
J.H.S.H. schrieb:
independent of the budget If there is one thing to avoid at all costs, it is that. A great plan won’t help you if the budget doesn’t support it. So: first set the budget, then create a realistic plan. Otherwise, someone will end up regretting it later.
Okay, well convinced :-)
We will first plan the budget and get back to you later. Thank you very much for all your input so far; it has already helped us a lot (although differently than expected, as the budget was not my first priority). I can say that we will be somewhere between 450,000 and 600,000.
If you still have any comments on the initial plans, I would be happy to hear them.
We will first plan the budget and get back to you later. Thank you very much for all your input so far; it has already helped us a lot (although differently than expected, as the budget was not my first priority). I can say that we will be somewhere between 450,000 and 600,000.
If you still have any comments on the initial plans, I would be happy to hear them.
J.H.S.H. schrieb:
(although different than expected, budget was not my primary concern) I can confirm that we will be somewhere between 450k and 600k.But without a budget, nothing makes sense, and within the mentioned range, it’s advisable to consider efficient lengths for utility lines and driveway areas. Maybe you could also share the house design that forms the basis for the sizing of the placeholders for the building footprint and terrace location.
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