ᐅ The floor plan "HOUSE FOR TWO" covers approximately 150 sqm and is introduced here.
Created on: 3 Jul 2020 13:23
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pagoni2020
So – now I’m presenting our “House Project for Two” expecting your honest and maybe harsh feedback. Don’t hold back, as I can only benefit from it.
The building permit / planning permission application is currently being submitted, and preliminary information suggests it should be approved. We deliberately avoided too many deviations from the very old development plan.
We like a modern, minimalist architectural style. The floor plan is a mix of our own living habits, our existing furniture including the kitchen, and the budget, since at this stage of life we don’t want to take on risky debt.
Our current condominium is very stylish and was just recently customized by ourselves, but life changes; besides, we want to be able to have a small fire in our own garden again.
We are now building with a general contractor (GC) who has a good reputation and has already allowed us to change many things without stress – so far. Ideally, we would have built with an independent architect or our friend who is an interior architect, which would have given us more freedom in choosing trades, but this time we want to focus more on details and avoid the running around that happened the first time, 30 years ago. No, this time I won’t be digging foundations or pouring the basement myself until my family doesn’t recognize me anymore.
Whether it will be a garage, carport, or parking space depends on the costs, as does the attached balcony, which would then be a so-called standing balcony; initially, it just needs to be approved. There will also be a larger garden house with an outdoor sauna.
The plot is quite large and has a nice view of greenery. Unfortunately, only to the north, about 500 m (1600 ft) away and at a lower level, there is a beautiful lake. For this reason alone, we decided not to build a bungalow, since having a lake view and not using it was out of the question (hence the “emergency balcony” at the bedroom). Originally, a house with a bend was planned, but it always looked ugly in the end.
HOUSE FOR TWO
Plot size: 1400 sqm (15,000 sq ft)
Slope: No
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: Gable roof
Architectural style: modern-minimalist
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: clean lines
Basement, floors: no basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 (one of them still works a bit more…)
Guest stays per year: quite often, alternating
Conservative or modern construction: modern, open plan
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: yes/no/undecided, possibly also gas fireplace
Balcony, roof terrace: possibly a balcony at the bedroom for lake view
Garage, carport: yes, depending on price
Additional wishes, etc.:
Separate guest area, possibly as a bedroom in old age, then guests upstairs
Custom furniture and kitchen integrated
Separate TV area from the gallery, next to it a separate relaxation area with recliner
Kitchen with 120 cm (47 inch) side-by-side refrigerator or 70 cm (28 inch) refrigerator by the window side
Monolithic Rock XL1 wood stove available, chimney planned outside for lower costs, appearance, and less space inside
Ground floor window areas separated by masonry walls due to chimney, possibly refrigerator placement but especially due to manufacturer’s limited width (according to GC)
Original idea was continuous window surfaces up to the eaves in living/dining area, now separated at ceiling height by masonry strip
Some parts in the plan/floor plan not labeled correctly yet (GC design implementation)
House design, who designed it: by the clients + partial coordination with interior architect, currently executed by a builder’s planner
What do you like most and why?
Simple architectural style, gallery, spacious window surfaces, external blinds, open layout
What don’t you like and why? I’m sure I’ll read about it here
Estimated price according to architect/planner: -
Features: The goal is to invest selectively and sensibly but consistently omit unnecessary, cost-driving frills (in my opinion)
Preferred heating system: undecided, unfortunately no gas connection available
If you had to skip something, which details or extensions could you do without? Maybe the fireplace… I’m still unsure about the location, I would like a built-in gas fireplace under the stairs, but only for that would we get a liquefied gas tank?
Why is the design the way it is? For example:
Own life circumstances, existing furniture, individual living habits
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
I welcome direct and constructive assessments. The building shape and location of carport/garage are fixed. The focus of questions is on layout details and usage/design options.
There will be a glass roof or slatted shading in front of the kitchen area.
The plot is almost flat, and the outdoor area will be simple and user-friendly, with a larger garden house including outdoor sauna, storage for gadgets, tools, etc.
The building permit / planning permission application is currently being submitted, and preliminary information suggests it should be approved. We deliberately avoided too many deviations from the very old development plan.
We like a modern, minimalist architectural style. The floor plan is a mix of our own living habits, our existing furniture including the kitchen, and the budget, since at this stage of life we don’t want to take on risky debt.
Our current condominium is very stylish and was just recently customized by ourselves, but life changes; besides, we want to be able to have a small fire in our own garden again.
We are now building with a general contractor (GC) who has a good reputation and has already allowed us to change many things without stress – so far. Ideally, we would have built with an independent architect or our friend who is an interior architect, which would have given us more freedom in choosing trades, but this time we want to focus more on details and avoid the running around that happened the first time, 30 years ago. No, this time I won’t be digging foundations or pouring the basement myself until my family doesn’t recognize me anymore.
Whether it will be a garage, carport, or parking space depends on the costs, as does the attached balcony, which would then be a so-called standing balcony; initially, it just needs to be approved. There will also be a larger garden house with an outdoor sauna.
The plot is quite large and has a nice view of greenery. Unfortunately, only to the north, about 500 m (1600 ft) away and at a lower level, there is a beautiful lake. For this reason alone, we decided not to build a bungalow, since having a lake view and not using it was out of the question (hence the “emergency balcony” at the bedroom). Originally, a house with a bend was planned, but it always looked ugly in the end.
HOUSE FOR TWO
Plot size: 1400 sqm (15,000 sq ft)
Slope: No
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: Gable roof
Architectural style: modern-minimalist
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: clean lines
Basement, floors: no basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 (one of them still works a bit more…)
Guest stays per year: quite often, alternating
Conservative or modern construction: modern, open plan
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: yes/no/undecided, possibly also gas fireplace
Balcony, roof terrace: possibly a balcony at the bedroom for lake view
Garage, carport: yes, depending on price
Additional wishes, etc.:
Separate guest area, possibly as a bedroom in old age, then guests upstairs
Custom furniture and kitchen integrated
Separate TV area from the gallery, next to it a separate relaxation area with recliner
Kitchen with 120 cm (47 inch) side-by-side refrigerator or 70 cm (28 inch) refrigerator by the window side
Monolithic Rock XL1 wood stove available, chimney planned outside for lower costs, appearance, and less space inside
Ground floor window areas separated by masonry walls due to chimney, possibly refrigerator placement but especially due to manufacturer’s limited width (according to GC)
Original idea was continuous window surfaces up to the eaves in living/dining area, now separated at ceiling height by masonry strip
Some parts in the plan/floor plan not labeled correctly yet (GC design implementation)
House design, who designed it: by the clients + partial coordination with interior architect, currently executed by a builder’s planner
What do you like most and why?
Simple architectural style, gallery, spacious window surfaces, external blinds, open layout
What don’t you like and why? I’m sure I’ll read about it here
Estimated price according to architect/planner: -
Features: The goal is to invest selectively and sensibly but consistently omit unnecessary, cost-driving frills (in my opinion)
Preferred heating system: undecided, unfortunately no gas connection available
If you had to skip something, which details or extensions could you do without? Maybe the fireplace… I’m still unsure about the location, I would like a built-in gas fireplace under the stairs, but only for that would we get a liquefied gas tank?
Why is the design the way it is? For example:
Own life circumstances, existing furniture, individual living habits
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
I welcome direct and constructive assessments. The building shape and location of carport/garage are fixed. The focus of questions is on layout details and usage/design options.
There will be a glass roof or slatted shading in front of the kitchen area.
The plot is almost flat, and the outdoor area will be simple and user-friendly, with a larger garden house including outdoor sauna, storage for gadgets, tools, etc.
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pagoni20201 Aug 2020 20:25Our planning phase was actually already completed... and now this:
First draft (#1), complete changes after forum feedback in (#67), and then our final decision (#82).
After reading all your comments again, this new idea has now emerged, which we want to present to our general contractor on Monday for modification. Even though the redesign may cost a few € (euros), we still want to consider it.
Ultimately, it is especially about the lateral, unobstructed lake view on the upper floor, which was previously quite well possible from the bedroom as well.
In the now discarded draft #67, however, we really liked having our living room on the upper floor facing a window wall with a lake view, better and more flexible than the bedroom because the living room windows allow freer planning. So we had the brilliant idea to revive this living room concept from #67 and to sacrifice part of the existing open space or slightly extend the upper floor ceiling.
This would allow the bathroom and bedroom to be swapped, creating a new spacious living/lounge area (which could also be used for potential guests or family visits) with a large glass front yet to be designed. Although it would face roughly northeast, it would look out over the small lake and remain unobstructed.
There would now only be about 12sqm (130 sq ft) of open space left above the dining area or lounging area in front of the fireplace (depending on the furniture), but we would gain more (not necessarily needed) living space on the upper floor and especially the open view from this space.
Besides questions about the pros and cons as well as likes and dislikes, we would also appreciate ideas regarding the appropriate window design on this living room gable side. Of course, we want to maximize the view, but at the same time, we don’t want to overdo it. It is still undecided whether we leave this living room area open to above or insert a ceiling here as well.
Currently, a bedroom balcony is planned in front of the gable; with the newly created living room, the question now arises whether the balcony should be omitted entirely and replaced by a wide window front, for example sliding elements with fall protection or fixed glass at the bottom and generous glazing above, so you could basically sit on the sofa as if you were outdoors, and the balcony with chairs, etc., could be eliminated.
What is your opinion on this new change on the upper floor?
What impact do you see from the reduced open space?
Any window ideas (size, functions)? Currently, a first idea is shown in the elevation view
First draft (#1), complete changes after forum feedback in (#67), and then our final decision (#82).
After reading all your comments again, this new idea has now emerged, which we want to present to our general contractor on Monday for modification. Even though the redesign may cost a few € (euros), we still want to consider it.
Ultimately, it is especially about the lateral, unobstructed lake view on the upper floor, which was previously quite well possible from the bedroom as well.
In the now discarded draft #67, however, we really liked having our living room on the upper floor facing a window wall with a lake view, better and more flexible than the bedroom because the living room windows allow freer planning. So we had the brilliant idea to revive this living room concept from #67 and to sacrifice part of the existing open space or slightly extend the upper floor ceiling.
This would allow the bathroom and bedroom to be swapped, creating a new spacious living/lounge area (which could also be used for potential guests or family visits) with a large glass front yet to be designed. Although it would face roughly northeast, it would look out over the small lake and remain unobstructed.
There would now only be about 12sqm (130 sq ft) of open space left above the dining area or lounging area in front of the fireplace (depending on the furniture), but we would gain more (not necessarily needed) living space on the upper floor and especially the open view from this space.
Besides questions about the pros and cons as well as likes and dislikes, we would also appreciate ideas regarding the appropriate window design on this living room gable side. Of course, we want to maximize the view, but at the same time, we don’t want to overdo it. It is still undecided whether we leave this living room area open to above or insert a ceiling here as well.
Currently, a bedroom balcony is planned in front of the gable; with the newly created living room, the question now arises whether the balcony should be omitted entirely and replaced by a wide window front, for example sliding elements with fall protection or fixed glass at the bottom and generous glazing above, so you could basically sit on the sofa as if you were outdoors, and the balcony with chairs, etc., could be eliminated.
What is your opinion on this new change on the upper floor?
What impact do you see from the reduced open space?
Any window ideas (size, functions)? Currently, a first idea is shown in the elevation view
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pagoni20201 Aug 2020 21:57haydee schrieb:
I like the idea with the windows.
@hampshire, I think you installed ones that would suit you. I’m not sure if regular sliding doors make sense.
A fall protection needs to be installed, but it shouldn’t be intrusive. Glass? @Muc1985, didn’t we discuss this with you? Thanks, the designer will be happy about that—
Subject to the building requirements for the windows, the question of having a balcony or not also comes up, or whether we simply save those costs and design the windows freely without focusing too much on the budget.
So we’ll be sitting on the sofas looking outside, meaning horizontal bars should be considered, but these should not be at eye level when standing—
Above all, deciding what and how to open—sliding door or not—is difficult because there are so many possible options.
No, better do a proper relaunch—this is neither fish nor fowl: 1. Either you can afford the clearance height, or you’re short by about three-quarters of a meter (30 inches) to avoid this half-baked “build over two steps in the stair axis, but then squeeze the bedroom-bath suite at the third step near the stairs” compromise; 2. The entryway situation of the utility room with the door stuck flat against the wall and the walkway shifted forward into the kitchen run is more ouch than Eureka. And somehow the “charm” of the building mass as a fake conversion of a small industrial hall isn’t really the dream of my numb feet. Turn down the reduction must level a bit. Structurally, it feels too much like pseudo-skeletal construction to me. At that point, it hardly matters that the elevations are so dark gray to black as to be illegible, making detailed reflection impossible.
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Your approach to the living and house layout has gone in the wrong direction for me. When I evaluate your floor plans individually, the fine-tuning for me is in #68. What bothers me about the current version, preventing it from being my top choice:
- Living space spread over two floors
- Guest room directly adjacent to the living area, with guests having to walk through it to reach the bathroom
- Bedroom located on the south side
- Guest room on the south side—do you have guests staying 300 days a year?
- The large impressive gallery is gone, along with its impact on the house and room atmosphere.
I do like the huge window facing the lake, the open space above it, and the triangular window reaching up to the roof ridge.
I simply have a different taste, focusing fully on function and ergonomics.
And regarding ergonomics, it’s exactly the points I mentioned that bother me—the house isn’t finished yet.
Best regards, Nida
Your approach to the living and house layout has gone in the wrong direction for me. When I evaluate your floor plans individually, the fine-tuning for me is in #68. What bothers me about the current version, preventing it from being my top choice:
- Living space spread over two floors
- Guest room directly adjacent to the living area, with guests having to walk through it to reach the bathroom
- Bedroom located on the south side
- Guest room on the south side—do you have guests staying 300 days a year?
- The large impressive gallery is gone, along with its impact on the house and room atmosphere.
I do like the huge window facing the lake, the open space above it, and the triangular window reaching up to the roof ridge.
I simply have a different taste, focusing fully on function and ergonomics.
And regarding ergonomics, it’s exactly the points I mentioned that bother me—the house isn’t finished yet.
Best regards, Nida
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