ᐅ Floor plan for a detached single-family house with a gable roof, 1.5 stories – suggestions for improvements?

Created on: 17 Jul 2018 09:31
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Hello. My partner and I are planning to build a house soon. This is the first draft from the planner at the construction company. The design was created based on our specifications (a hand-drawn sketch from us).

Gable roof, single-family house, no basement, 1.5 stories, currently 2 people in the household; later 3-4.

The terrace is planned to be adjacent to the kitchen and living area, mainly facing west. Do you think it would be better to have it facing south instead? Possibly wrap around the corner near the living area?

Our requirement was to have direct access from the garage/carport into the utility room, and from there directly into the kitchen.

- Is the size of the utility room sufficient? All the building services should be housed there. Additionally, the utility room should also serve as a kind of pantry. Laundry tasks will also be done there.
- What do you think about the downstairs bathroom? Showering directly in front of the window doesn’t seem ideal^^.
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chrisw81
20 Jul 2018 14:15
I find roomsketcher very intuitive for initial designs... I also had trouble with Sweet Home 3D. With roomsketcher, you can start online right away and quite quickly create and show a floor plan, as well as walk through it in 3D.
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WilhelmRo
20 Jul 2018 14:18
Alright, go ahead, you pencil sketchers. I can create a rough floor plan with the tool in 5 minutes. I made the furniture once in actual size, and then there’s this copy-paste feature—that’s fantastic!
And if I want to place a room from the south to the north side, I don’t grab scissors or an eraser! Instead, I just drag and drop.
By the way, it’s 2018, not 1988.
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Knallkörper
20 Jul 2018 14:28
I’m also not a fan of paper and pencil. Once drawn digitally, floor plans can be much easier to modify, different versions saved and compared. They are stored in Google Drive and always accessible. Any program allows you to measure distances, calculate areas, place furniture, and so on. The OP’s hand drawing isn’t even worth the paper because none of the proportions are correct. This means the house has to be redesigned around the stairs, and the sketch goes straight to the trash. In AutoCAD, I scale the stairs and see where the walls will move.
kaho67420 Jul 2018 14:49
I think we’re getting quite off-topic here. But I also need to raise this point.

I recently read about the admission test for architects. Nearly 70% of the focus was on drawing and art. I believe this is no longer adequate today. Of course, an architect should have a sense of harmony, beauty, art, and so on. But they don’t necessarily have to be a draftsman anymore.

Software can do this faster and better nowadays, and at some point, we need to embrace the modern era. If someone can draw, that’s great, but if they use software, that’s just as good.
11ant20 Jul 2018 14:53
WilhelmRo schrieb:
So you’re basically saying there shouldn’t be threads titled like “What do you think of my floor plan?”.

Yes, but definitely with photos of sketches on sandwich paper. You lose the natural flow of the wrist when using a mouse instead of a pencil. Also, the learning effect from erasing is much stronger than just clicking “undo.”
WilhelmRo schrieb:
Paper walls and dashed stairs don’t help either.

It’s even less helpful when an early-stage plan supposedly “fits” because of a pseudo-professional presentation.
WilhelmRo schrieb:
The program shouldn’t pretend to be professional,

Unfortunately, that’s exactly its strongest effect: the client falls in love with a model that doesn’t work.
Climbee schrieb:
Also, with Sweet Home I noticed you have to be very precise about the size of individual elements there

That’s one of my main critiques of the “professionalism” of such programs: if you release the mouse at a line length of 9.874 cm (about 3.9 inches), the program will simply write 4.937 m (16.2 ft) wall length at a scale of 1:50. It doesn’t say: 4.875 m (16.0 ft) or 5.00 m (16.4 ft) would be the closest standard construction increments. Anyone trying to build from such plans would spend most of their masonry time cutting bricks.

And when you draw a window, the program doesn’t remember the size and ask if you want to use the same format for the next similar window. Instead, it makes the novice planner scatter twenty-two windows across seventeen different sizes.

So right where a beginner should be guided by the program, it instead silently takes over with its nonsense. A feature like the one used by @kaho674’s program, which transparently overlays walls from other floors on every floor plan, should exist for drainage pipes — that would be truly helpful for amateurs and a learning opportunity.

Or coloring each stair step red where you might hit your head. But being able to recolor a carpet in an unfinished design is trivial. Being able to enter terrain heights — that would be useful. But instead, what do these programs do? They place every house on the same green LEGO baseplate (and Katja is still waiting for the original poster’s plot of land)!
Knallkörper schrieb:
In AutoCAD I scale the stairs and see where the walls move.

Yes, and — does the client want to apply as a draftsman?
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Climbee20 Jul 2018 14:57
I just get the impression that many people who use software switch off their brains. This is usually not the case when counting grid squares. In those cases, objects are transferred without checking if the size is correct (for example, with stairs), whereas a detail-oriented planner informs themselves beforehand about the required dimensions of a stair. If you take it directly from the software, it should be correct, right? (At least, that’s often my impression.) And my designs are still stored on Google Drive anyway.

I have nothing against (good) software (although I don’t necessarily include Sweet Home among those), but hand sketching is more direct.

I also firmly believe that an architect needs to be able to quickly sketch a drawing freehand. For example, I don’t get a sense of perspective when using software. Overall, I think it’s great that there are now entrance exams for architects as a selection criterion. When I finished secondary school (A-levels), admission was based solely on grades. As a result, people who may have just barely passed but had brilliant design skills had no chance at all (but this is also a common issue in medical school admissions).