ᐅ Planning kitchen appliances: How to approach it. The market is overwhelming.
Created on: 11 Sep 2017 12:34
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G-Star1988
Hello everyone,
I have an appointment at the kitchen studio next Saturday and I’m preparing for it. Specifically, I’m looking for the appliances I want to have later in the kitchen. I’ve been researching a lot from brands like Neff / Siemens, Miele, Bora, etc., but I’m not making much progress.
For example, the current selection at Siemens looks like this:
Dishwasher IQ300 SN636X03MD
Oven IQ700 HB634GBS1
Microwave IQ500 HF15M264
Cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor EX801LX34E
or
2 x Cooktop IQ700 EX375FXB1E with extractor IQ700 LF16VA570
(The cooktop with integrated downdraft is the only fixed requirement, unfortunately I don’t have any influence on that ^^)
I actually value quality, energy efficiency, and a balanced price-performance ratio. But how can I find out if what you pick is really good? Or if there are possibly cheaper but equally high-quality products from other manufacturers. For example, the cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor from Miele—according to the catalog, it’s cheaper but just as good or even better?
How do you approach this?
I have an appointment at the kitchen studio next Saturday and I’m preparing for it. Specifically, I’m looking for the appliances I want to have later in the kitchen. I’ve been researching a lot from brands like Neff / Siemens, Miele, Bora, etc., but I’m not making much progress.
For example, the current selection at Siemens looks like this:
Dishwasher IQ300 SN636X03MD
Oven IQ700 HB634GBS1
Microwave IQ500 HF15M264
Cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor EX801LX34E
or
2 x Cooktop IQ700 EX375FXB1E with extractor IQ700 LF16VA570
(The cooktop with integrated downdraft is the only fixed requirement, unfortunately I don’t have any influence on that ^^)
I actually value quality, energy efficiency, and a balanced price-performance ratio. But how can I find out if what you pick is really good? Or if there are possibly cheaper but equally high-quality products from other manufacturers. For example, the cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor from Miele—according to the catalog, it’s cheaper but just as good or even better?
How do you approach this?
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dragonfreak16 Sep 2017 18:19Grym schrieb:
Putting kitchens aside: Even regular IKEA furniture isn’t really top quality and can’t be compared to what you get from a proper furniture store.What do you consider a proper furniture store? [emoji14] Höffner, Kraft, Porta?I’m not familiar with Porta, but the other two definitely offer decent furniture. Of course, they also have cheaper items and ready-to-assemble furniture.
Besides that, we also have a local furniture store here, which I would rate a bit higher in quality compared to Höffner or Kraft.
Hülsta, Stressless, Musterring, and so on—if those brands are available, their quality is okay. For those who like solid wood furniture (which we don’t): Voglauer.
Besides that, we also have a local furniture store here, which I would rate a bit higher in quality compared to Höffner or Kraft.
Hülsta, Stressless, Musterring, and so on—if those brands are available, their quality is okay. For those who like solid wood furniture (which we don’t): Voglauer.
Grym schrieb:
Putting kitchens aside: even regular IKEA furniture isn’t really top quality and can’t be compared to what you get from a decent furniture store.It varies a lot. In my opinion, the “decent” furniture stores have really declined. You have to specifically look for branded products, as 90% of their stock is private label. But it’s hard to blame them—they’re just trying to keep up with IKEA and the discount stores. IKEA also has a range of quality. For example, the Hemnes dressers are terrible. Besta and Pax furniture feel different and are worth the money. I use Galant for office furniture and am very satisfied with it. Of course, there are more professional options, but for the price... (though a filing cabinet combo costs around €600–700 (about $650–760), which is on the higher side for IKEA).
I also have Hülsta furniture (dining table and chairs as well as a large bed), plus a dresser from the Danish Beds store. Hülsta is definitely nice quality... but you could furnish an entire apartment at IKEA for the price of just the bed alone.
Grym schrieb:
Putting kitchens aside: Even regular IKEA furniture isn’t really top quality and can’t be compared to a proper furniture store.You have to realize that your general statements lack substance.
And before a mix-up happens: IKEA sells flat-pack furniture, so please don’t compare it to Rolf Benz or similar brands. Mömax would be a more appropriate comparison, and even between those two, there’s a huge difference – in favor of IKEA.
While I personally don’t get much out of IKEA anymore either (except for Besta, Malm, and PAX [emoji6]), sweeping statements and claims like that are simply nonsense.
We are here in a new-build house construction forum. I really have to assume that Rolf Benz is an option, whereas Mömax is probably not. Seriously, what is that supposed to mean?
Also, I trust everyone here can distinguish brand-name furniture from private labels in stores like Höffner. Yes, as mentioned, even good furniture stores now offer a lot of lower-quality items. That’s not necessarily a bad thing—for a student apartment or a first flat, it’s fine. But when I move into a house I plan to live in for at least 30 years, I want to make a one-time investment in good quality.
Also, I trust everyone here can distinguish brand-name furniture from private labels in stores like Höffner. Yes, as mentioned, even good furniture stores now offer a lot of lower-quality items. That’s not necessarily a bad thing—for a student apartment or a first flat, it’s fine. But when I move into a house I plan to live in for at least 30 years, I want to make a one-time investment in good quality.
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Knallkörper16 Sep 2017 18:51Even if I repeat myself: A Blum hinge purchased from IKEA looks identical on the outside to any other Blum hinge. The mounting is the same. You can clamp and/or screw the hinge cup. It may be true that there is a separate production facility for IKEA. Claims that this quality is worse are just hearsay. There are a few relatively expensive, quite good solid wood fronts. If you don’t like those, IKEA is just as unsuitable for you as for someone who needs a different cabinet system or has difficulty finding compatible appliances.
I don’t like to be seen as an IKEA defender, but facts are facts.
I don’t like to be seen as an IKEA defender, but facts are facts.
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