ᐅ Our little house, your opinion

Created on: 13 May 2014 11:54
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emer
Hello,

we are now entering the critical phase of our planning. Next week, the shell construction will be put out to tender. I have refrained from asking for outside opinions for a long time, but now I’m taking the step.

The building will be solid construction, meeting the energy saving ordinance standard (we will be about 10% below the required value).

Almost 160 sqm (1722 sq ft) of pure living space (excluding the terrace).
External dimensions approximately 11.00 m by 15.30 m (36 ft by 50 ft) including the garage.
The plot size is 600 sqm (6460 sq ft).

To give you a complete picture, I’m including interior and exterior views.

What is not clearly visible on the plans: there will be an attic above the bathroom, office, and bedroom.

The windows are not yet final (in the end, they will be double casement windows).

The "space" in the bathroom will be a closet.

The staircase is closed off so that the space underneath will be part of the pantry/wardrobe.
Even though some proponents of space-saving staircases in detached houses (EVH) are here, we consciously decided against it. 🙂

The front door has already been rotated and now opens to the right. This way, it no longer blocks the wardrobe area when open.

A roof window above the hallway has also already been included.

A few walls will be constructed as solid walls rather than drywall, contrary to the plans shown here. This is due to structural requirements. The material transitions and mix are thus also resolved.

On the floor plans, the north side is always at the top.

Enjoy, and thank you in advance for your feedback. Maybe there are still some minor details we can change or improve.


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Best regards,
Bauexperte
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Wastl
13 May 2014 13:52
I would find the open area between the living room, front door, and staircase to be bothersome.

For me, the living room is already a private space. The mail carrier can directly see into this "private area" in your home.

Noise from the living room can travel directly upstairs through the open staircase, making the rooms above louder.

In our house (with a controlled ventilation system), the doors downstairs need a small gap at the bottom. This means the bedroom doors upstairs do not provide strong sound insulation. A door leading to the living room has worked well for us. However, this is often debated and largely a matter of personal preference 🙂
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Wanderdüne
13 May 2014 15:30
When the tenders are imminent, it becomes clear that some aspects are too late to change:

- The sightlines throughout the entire ground floor are poorly designed. Someone working at the preparation or cooking island faces a wall. Someone sitting at this island can only look out at an angle or at a 90-degree angle. A person sitting on the sofa can only see out the window from a distance, and the TV is pushed so far into the corner that a direct view of it is hardly possible.
The dining area also lacks a good view; the kitchen’s exterior wall creates a tunnel vision effect, and others are looking inward toward the room.

- The coat closet is awkwardly divided, and the door to the storage room is poorly integrated.

- The staircase feels more like a makeshift solution, though some might like it.

- The shelf above the fireplace is hard to reach.

- The use of the space between the living and dining areas is unclear; part of the window would be more urgently needed elsewhere.

- On the upper floor, the access to the bedroom causes disturbance, as someone dressing can disturb the person sleeping.

- The children’s rooms, office, and bathroom have their entrances located in a corner, limiting their usability.

- One child’s bed is placed under a window.

WD
f-pNo13 May 2014 16:09
Hi Emer,

you’ve written so many posts here, but you’ve been hesitant to share your floor plan for ages? 🙄

Just a few minor points from me:
The storage room that everyone has already mentioned. A sliding door to the kitchen would be nice. However, only a sliding door that slides into the wall makes sense. A more cost-effective alternative would be to have the pantry door open toward the kitchen side where the tall cabinets are. That way the door won’t get in the way when working in the kitchen, and you’ll have more space in the storage room.

In the bathroom, you might want to consider a folding door for the cabinet. I personally find those really unattractive, but it would be practical here. Also, maybe there are nicer models out there, which I don’t know about because of my dislike.

What is the purpose of the additional small storage room on the ground floor? Cleaning supplies?

Are you not planning a door between the entrance hall and the living area? This might sound a bit stingy or energy-saving on my part, but heating from the living room will warm the whole house, up to the upper floor. And if you don’t have a strong extractor hood in the kitchen, cooking odors will spread right into the living area.

So long
emer13 May 2014 16:46
Wanderdüne schrieb:
When the tenders are just about to start, it becomes clear that some things are a bit late to address:

- The sightlines throughout the entire ground floor are not very successful. Someone working at the prep or cooking island faces a wall. Someone sitting at this island can only look outside at an angle or at 90 degrees. Sitting on the sofa, you can only see out of the window from far away, and the TV is placed so far in the corner that looking at it straight on is hardly possible.

More "looking outside" would almost always mean adding more windows. But we don’t want to build a glass house. The cooking island ends right at the window (south side); turning less than 90 degrees to the right to see outside to the south simply won’t satisfy anyone. The kitchen window on the east side still offers a good view of the street.
And luckily, the TV is only located on the left on paper 🙂
The dining area also isn’t great in terms of view; the kitchen’s exterior wall creates a tunnel effect, and other people look into the interior of the room.

I can live with that 🙂
- The cloakroom is awkwardly divided, or rather, the door to the storage room is poorly integrated.

We’re still considering how to make it look like a large built-in wardrobe in the execution. We’ll see how it turns out. Functionally, we find it works well there.
- The staircase is more of a makeshift solution, but some may like it.

I already commented on that at the beginning 🙂
- The shelf above the fireplace is hard to reach.

It will look different in the final design.
- It’s unclear how the area between the living and dining spaces is used; part of the window would be needed more urgently elsewhere.

That area is meant for dancing 🙂
- Upstairs, the access to the bedroom causes disturbance; the person sleeping is bothered by someone dressing.

But we didn’t want a walk-in closet as a through-room.
- The children’s rooms, office, and bathroom have doorways in a room corner, which limits usability.

That doesn’t make sense to me. The doorway has to go somewhere in the wall 🙂
- One child sleeps under a window

As long as that’s not unhealthy, it’s fine 🙂

But it’s good that you like some parts. Ultimately, our plan is a combination of our taste, our ideas about functionality, and our experience from several rented apartments. And we also had to make compromises.

The small “room” to the left of the utility room resulted from the position of the stove. It’s just big enough to use for small things without completely blocking the square meters 🙂

Thanks already for the responses.
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Wanderdüne
13 May 2014 20:53
emer schrieb:
...with more windows... don’t build a glass house... rotate less than 90 degrees to the right... don’t satisfy anyone... to look out onto the street.

The total window area isn’t the issue, but rather the placement. With less window area placed in the right spot, the indoor-outdoor connection and living quality would improve.
emer schrieb:
And fortunately the TV only stands on paper on the left side 🙂

Then that’s fine.
emer schrieb:
(Wardrobe) ... functional.

There are worse options.
emer schrieb:
(Staircase) I already commented on that at the beginning 🙂

I accept that, and I find it interesting that someone includes such a staircase on their wishlist for a new build.
emer schrieb:
That will look different in the final execution.

Good.
emer schrieb:
This area is for dancing 🙂

Is it actually used for that?
emer schrieb:
But we didn’t want a walk-through dressing room.

So? Would a door at the head of the bedroom be better? And why don’t you just plan both as you want?
emer schrieb:
I don’t get it. There has to be a hole in the wall somewhere 🙂

As seen in the office, wall surface is blocked, making it inefficient and impractical.
emer schrieb:
(Sleeping under window) As long as it’s not unhealthy, it’s all good 🙂

That comment fits the staircase choice...
emer schrieb:
...our design is a composition based on our taste, our ideas about functionality, and our experience.

Your design isn’t bad either, but it feels more like a preliminary draft, not yet fully refined.

WD
emer13 May 2014 21:17
For us, it is round; otherwise, we wouldn’t build it that way. But we will think about the door issue for the children’s room 1. It is possible to position the door away from the wall there.

Basically, many points come down to personal preference. 🙂