ᐅ Planning Phase Floor Plan Single-Family Home

Created on: 17 Jan 2015 16:31
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CTJ2014
Hello dear forum members!

We are currently in the planning phase for our house with a double garage (about 200 to 230 sq m (2150 to 2475 sq ft) of living space) and have tried to create a draft according to our ideas. Since we are not yet 100% satisfied (especially with the upper floor, where we feel the space is not used well), we would greatly appreciate your suggestions, comments, and ideas. Thank you in advance!

About the house/lot:
The width is 20 m (65.6 ft). The west side is not very suitable for a terrace or similar due to neighboring buildings, so we have placed the entrance and staircase there. The building line requires the house to be 6-10 m (20 to 33 ft) away from the street. We would like a half-hipped roof with a knee wall height of 1.6 m (5.2 ft), so that the sloping ceilings on the upper floor are only moderately affecting the usable space. The kitchen should be open to the dining room, and the dining room should be semi-open or separated by a sliding door to the living room. If possible, the walk-in closet should connect the bedroom and the master bathroom and must accommodate a wardrobe that is 4.10 m (13.5 ft) wide.

What else would you need to know?
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CTJ2014
17 Jan 2015 19:32
Jochen104 schrieb:

Do you really want your guests to always walk through the kitchen to get to the dining room?

By the way, we managed to fit the same room layout plus a study into 180m³ (6,350 ft³) without any issues.

Yes, the dining room doesn’t need a separate entrance from the hallway.

Where exactly did you cut back?
The study must be that size and the kitchen should be that big,
the living room could be smaller (30 m² (320 ft²)), but simply cutting out a corner towards the terrace doesn’t seem like an option.
Could I see your floor plan?
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CTJ2014
17 Jan 2015 20:07
ypg schrieb:
Before I say something pointless, it would be helpful to know whether you are building with or without a basement, what kind of room the 15 sqm (160 sq ft) space in the north is intended for, why you need a 40 sqm (430 sq ft) living room (okay, a 4-meter (13 ft) long sofa has to fit 😉), and whether you are deliberately increasing the room sizes by about one third—assuming the financing allows for extra square meters—because you prefer a more “generous” feel.
I ask because some people don’t really have a sense of space and therefore no idea what 10 or 15 sqm (108 or 160 sq ft) actually means. Others want to find generosity in their larger (more than usual) square meters... What do you want?

The size contradicts itself again with a small highlight: In the 1980s, dining room bay windows were used to slightly enlarge small rooms.

Best regards, Yvonne

Hello Yvonne,
we are building with a basement. The room in the north will be the office.
We want the living room to feel spacious because a) we have a large sofa, b) a piano, and c) a fireplace with space in front for a cozy blanket ;-).
The financing would allow for the size, but if smaller works, we’d gladly use the money for other things :-)
However, around 200 sqm (2150 sq ft) is our target size.
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ypg
17 Jan 2015 21:59
CTJ2014 schrieb:
but it should be around 200 sqm (2,150 sq ft)...

Why?

Without a site plan and elevations, it’s very difficult to assess... I understand if you don’t want to move living spaces to the west because of the view, but I would still try to incorporate the valuable western light into the house design. Of course, this is lost if you place the guest toilet and the children's room in that prime corner. For example, on the ground floor you could position a kitchen daylight strip there, which would also have the advantage of letting you see who is coming onto the property.
Basically, it would also be wise to place the guest room next to the guest shower bathroom. Additionally, a small storage room on the ground floor for brooms, cleaning supplies, and drinks would be beneficial. The living room still does not have a good place for a piano.
Do you really have a sofa estimated at about 4 x 2 meters (13 x 6.5 feet)? Or is the sofa in the plan just a placeholder for a corner sofa?
On the upper floor, the staircase leads directly into a wall. Living space is wasted in the corridor (theoretically, you could move the girls’ bathroom forward and also adjust one of the children’s rooms).
Still, it is questionable whether a bathroom of around 15 sqm (160 sq ft) or 10 sqm (110 sq ft) and a walk-in closet of 17 sqm (183 sq ft), which only fits a 4.10 meter (13.5 feet) cabinet area, is really necessary.
Where will the children’s laundry go? They probably have more than you both and would have to use the master bathroom?!
I wouldn’t plan a bathroom for two people to be larger than 10–12 sqm (110–130 sq ft), and the children’s bathroom should be smaller (otherwise it becomes impractical and less cozy). A walk-in closet can be laid out differently for better use if you don’t have to adapt to an already existing wardrobe.

Fact: You don’t have a great corner for the piano, the bay window is questionable (on this plan just remove it and reduce the size of the living room—you’ll get a better use of the available space), and the staircase hits a wall upstairs... You could save 20 sqm (215 sq ft) upstairs with the same living value, but with a different plan.
Therefore, I would hand the planning over to an architect if you want to spend money on a bit more living space—please do so meaningfully and with ideas that are not visible in this design.

I generally like the position of the staircase, and space for a wardrobe has been created, but a thorough review of the site plan will certainly be worthwhile!!!

Best regards,
Yvonne
Jochen10418 Jan 2015 09:06
CTJ2014 schrieb:
Yes, the dining room doesn’t need its own entrance from the hallway.

Where exactly did you save space?
The study room must be that size and the kitchen should be that big,
the living room could be smaller (30 m² / 323 sq ft), just breaking out a corner towards the terrace is apparently not an option.
Can I see your floor plan?

I prefer not to share my floor plan publicly. However, I can give you an overview of our room layout along with the living area:
Ground floor - living/dining area: 46.46 m² (500 sq ft)
Ground floor - open kitchen: 8.78 m² (95 sq ft)
Ground floor - study room: 10.13 m² (109 sq ft)
Ground floor - utility room: 14.37 m² (155 sq ft)
Ground floor - guest bathroom: 2.88 m² (31 sq ft)
Ground floor - hallway: 8.79 m² (95 sq ft)
Upper floor - hallway: 11.57 m² (125 sq ft)
Upper floor - master bedroom: 14.95 m² (161 sq ft)
Upper floor - walk-in closet: 7.74 m² (83 sq ft)
Upper floor - master bathroom: 12.32 m² (133 sq ft)
Upper floor - child’s bedroom 1: 18.46 m² (199 sq ft)
Upper floor - child’s bedroom 2: 16.71 m² (180 sq ft)
Upper floor - children’s bathroom: 6.80 m² (73 sq ft)

Everything is quite straightforward, with a centralized hallway and, except for the utility room, only rectangular rooms.
We saved on having a basement by including a cellar replacement room behind the garage. It has about 27 m² (291 sq ft) and is used for the heating system and as storage for other equipment and bicycles.