ᐅ Modern house, approximately 160 sqm, optimized for space and functionality
Created on: 9 Dec 2020 22:20
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friday82
Hello dear forum,
I would like to tap into your collective expertise. We have the problem that the neighbor will build on the west side of the property, so we need to be a bit more creative. Otherwise, we would have simply placed the house as a rectangle towards the back of the lot. Another challenge is that it is a north-facing plot.
Most important questions
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (approximately 8600 sq ft)
Slope: flat
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.7
Gross floor area ratio (GFA): development plan allows 2 full stories
Building envelope, building line and boundary: marked in light blue, 3 m (10 ft) distance from neighbor
Edge development: allowed up to 9 m (30 ft)
Number of parking spaces: 2 (location still unclear, either next to or behind the house)
Stories: 2
Roof type: flat roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: see site plan
Maximum heights / limitations: 2 full stories; neighbor has a pitched roof and converted attic (very high)
Other requirements
Clients’ requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: modern
Basement, stories: no basement, 2 stories
Number of occupants, age: 2 persons, aged 30–40
Space requirements ground floor / upper floor: living, dining, kitchen, utility, office, guest WC, child 1, child 2, master bedroom, walk-in closet, master bathroom, children’s bathroom (approx. 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) living area)
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Guests per year: 5
Open or closed architecture: unknown
Conservative or modern building method: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen is schematic for now, should be a compromise
Number of dining seats: 4–6
Fireplace: yes
Music / audio wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: not planned yet, either on west side or behind the house
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why or why not
House design
Who designed the plan: initially ourselves; our planners are very busy and only deliver standard designs
What do you like especially? Why?
What do you dislike? Why? Bedroom still too large
Price estimate according to architect/planner: too expensive 🙂
Personal price limit for house including equipment:
Preferred heating system: air-source heat pump, we also requested geothermal options but efficiency differences seem small, so additional costs (about 15,000 without subsidy) don’t seem worthwhile?!
If you had to give up certain details / expansions
Functional rooms should stay as is. Fireplace could be removed if necessary. Our current draft included sliding / lift-and-slide elements, but since the window fronts have become smaller, we have taken these out for now. (3 sliding/lift-and-slide elements are included in calculation.) The angled wall is optional, just an idea.
Why is the design as it is now? For example
Standard design by the planner? The neighbor will build on the west side, so we came from a simple rectangle. All living areas face forward, service rooms in the back, entrance on the side.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
I would like general feedback so we don’t build nonsense. We have done a condominium before but never a house — where everything is flexible and actually too many options exist. The bedroom currently feels too large. We also want a washing machine upstairs so clothes don’t have to be carried through the house all the time. Perhaps laundry can be placed there. The house front on the building plot should protect us from the neighbor’s view, as he has many windows on his east side (our west side).
Thank you very much!



I would like to tap into your collective expertise. We have the problem that the neighbor will build on the west side of the property, so we need to be a bit more creative. Otherwise, we would have simply placed the house as a rectangle towards the back of the lot. Another challenge is that it is a north-facing plot.
Most important questions
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (approximately 8600 sq ft)
Slope: flat
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.7
Gross floor area ratio (GFA): development plan allows 2 full stories
Building envelope, building line and boundary: marked in light blue, 3 m (10 ft) distance from neighbor
Edge development: allowed up to 9 m (30 ft)
Number of parking spaces: 2 (location still unclear, either next to or behind the house)
Stories: 2
Roof type: flat roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: see site plan
Maximum heights / limitations: 2 full stories; neighbor has a pitched roof and converted attic (very high)
Other requirements
Clients’ requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: modern
Basement, stories: no basement, 2 stories
Number of occupants, age: 2 persons, aged 30–40
Space requirements ground floor / upper floor: living, dining, kitchen, utility, office, guest WC, child 1, child 2, master bedroom, walk-in closet, master bathroom, children’s bathroom (approx. 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) living area)
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Guests per year: 5
Open or closed architecture: unknown
Conservative or modern building method: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen is schematic for now, should be a compromise
Number of dining seats: 4–6
Fireplace: yes
Music / audio wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: not planned yet, either on west side or behind the house
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why or why not
House design
Who designed the plan: initially ourselves; our planners are very busy and only deliver standard designs
What do you like especially? Why?
What do you dislike? Why? Bedroom still too large
Price estimate according to architect/planner: too expensive 🙂
Personal price limit for house including equipment:
Preferred heating system: air-source heat pump, we also requested geothermal options but efficiency differences seem small, so additional costs (about 15,000 without subsidy) don’t seem worthwhile?!
If you had to give up certain details / expansions
Functional rooms should stay as is. Fireplace could be removed if necessary. Our current draft included sliding / lift-and-slide elements, but since the window fronts have become smaller, we have taken these out for now. (3 sliding/lift-and-slide elements are included in calculation.) The angled wall is optional, just an idea.
Why is the design as it is now? For example
Standard design by the planner? The neighbor will build on the west side, so we came from a simple rectangle. All living areas face forward, service rooms in the back, entrance on the side.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
I would like general feedback so we don’t build nonsense. We have done a condominium before but never a house — where everything is flexible and actually too many options exist. The bedroom currently feels too large. We also want a washing machine upstairs so clothes don’t have to be carried through the house all the time. Perhaps laundry can be placed there. The house front on the building plot should protect us from the neighbor’s view, as he has many windows on his east side (our west side).
Thank you very much!
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Matthew0310 Dec 2020 17:4011ant schrieb:
Where neighbors are needed just to watch your plate, clearly a dog is missing 🙂We are actually considering getting a mini pig, or maybe two, since being alone isn’t very social... 😉
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hampshire10 Dec 2020 20:23I like the house itself. I would shorten both hallways a bit to gain more room space, unless you really appreciate the recessed door creating the built-in closet niche.
Consider shifting the house slightly north, and for privacy on the terrace, a large tree could provide a nice natural screen over time. Also, you don’t have to limit yourself to just one terrace; there’s probably enough space in the garden for a beautifully designed second private terrace.
When it comes to cars, only drive onto the property as far as necessary. Any extra paved area is unnecessary surface sealing and costs money if you want to have it properly paved.
Install a photovoltaic system on the roof with an east-west orientation.
I like it – practical inside and not a cookie-cutter look outside. Let others think in squares.
Consider shifting the house slightly north, and for privacy on the terrace, a large tree could provide a nice natural screen over time. Also, you don’t have to limit yourself to just one terrace; there’s probably enough space in the garden for a beautifully designed second private terrace.
When it comes to cars, only drive onto the property as far as necessary. Any extra paved area is unnecessary surface sealing and costs money if you want to have it properly paved.
Install a photovoltaic system on the roof with an east-west orientation.
I like it – practical inside and not a cookie-cutter look outside. Let others think in squares.
Matthew03 schrieb:
Referring to it as "your problem in your head" seems presumptuous to me.Well, if someone has reservations or fears, is stuck in a mental framework and believes that things only work one way and “anything else is wrong,” it is fair to point out that these barriers usually exist in the mind. For an average or normal daily routine and a more or less typical European lifestyle, it is hard to understand why someone would focus negatively in that direction.
If the focus remains on this misconception and priorities shift so much that everything is planned just to avoid the judgment of some random neighbor, while completely ignoring the potential and beauty of the property, then this can also be mentioned.
How tall is the neighboring building exactly? Are there balconies facing your direction? How far away is the house?
Do you know if construction is planned on the western plot in front, and if so, what kind? What does the zoning plan say for the neighboring plot?
An 800sqm (8600 sqft) lot is already considered spacious here. But if you don’t have direct access from the house to the garden, the garden is basically useless.
Take a walk through some new housing developments in your area to get a sense of how houses are often built nowadays. Around here, there are sometimes two houses like yours on an 800sqm (8600 sqft) lot, and you can’t even see the sky from the sofa because the next house is so close.
Do you know if construction is planned on the western plot in front, and if so, what kind? What does the zoning plan say for the neighboring plot?
An 800sqm (8600 sqft) lot is already considered spacious here. But if you don’t have direct access from the house to the garden, the garden is basically useless.
Take a walk through some new housing developments in your area to get a sense of how houses are often built nowadays. Around here, there are sometimes two houses like yours on an 800sqm (8600 sqft) lot, and you can’t even see the sky from the sofa because the next house is so close.
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