ᐅ Modern house, approximately 160 sqm, optimized for space and functionality
Created on: 9 Dec 2020 22:20
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friday82Hello dear forum,
I would like to tap into your collective expertise. We have the problem that the neighbor will build on the west side of the property, so we need to be a bit more creative. Otherwise, we would have simply placed the house as a rectangle towards the back of the lot. Another challenge is that it is a north-facing plot.
Most important questions
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (approximately 8600 sq ft)
Slope: flat
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.7
Gross floor area ratio (GFA): development plan allows 2 full stories
Building envelope, building line and boundary: marked in light blue, 3 m (10 ft) distance from neighbor
Edge development: allowed up to 9 m (30 ft)
Number of parking spaces: 2 (location still unclear, either next to or behind the house)
Stories: 2
Roof type: flat roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: see site plan
Maximum heights / limitations: 2 full stories; neighbor has a pitched roof and converted attic (very high)
Other requirements
Clients’ requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: modern
Basement, stories: no basement, 2 stories
Number of occupants, age: 2 persons, aged 30–40
Space requirements ground floor / upper floor: living, dining, kitchen, utility, office, guest WC, child 1, child 2, master bedroom, walk-in closet, master bathroom, children’s bathroom (approx. 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) living area)
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Guests per year: 5
Open or closed architecture: unknown
Conservative or modern building method: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen is schematic for now, should be a compromise
Number of dining seats: 4–6
Fireplace: yes
Music / audio wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: not planned yet, either on west side or behind the house
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why or why not
House design
Who designed the plan: initially ourselves; our planners are very busy and only deliver standard designs
What do you like especially? Why?
What do you dislike? Why? Bedroom still too large
Price estimate according to architect/planner: too expensive 🙂
Personal price limit for house including equipment:
Preferred heating system: air-source heat pump, we also requested geothermal options but efficiency differences seem small, so additional costs (about 15,000 without subsidy) don’t seem worthwhile?!
If you had to give up certain details / expansions
Functional rooms should stay as is. Fireplace could be removed if necessary. Our current draft included sliding / lift-and-slide elements, but since the window fronts have become smaller, we have taken these out for now. (3 sliding/lift-and-slide elements are included in calculation.) The angled wall is optional, just an idea.
Why is the design as it is now? For example
Standard design by the planner? The neighbor will build on the west side, so we came from a simple rectangle. All living areas face forward, service rooms in the back, entrance on the side.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
I would like general feedback so we don’t build nonsense. We have done a condominium before but never a house — where everything is flexible and actually too many options exist. The bedroom currently feels too large. We also want a washing machine upstairs so clothes don’t have to be carried through the house all the time. Perhaps laundry can be placed there. The house front on the building plot should protect us from the neighbor’s view, as he has many windows on his east side (our west side).
Thank you very much!




I would like to tap into your collective expertise. We have the problem that the neighbor will build on the west side of the property, so we need to be a bit more creative. Otherwise, we would have simply placed the house as a rectangle towards the back of the lot. Another challenge is that it is a north-facing plot.
Most important questions
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (approximately 8600 sq ft)
Slope: flat
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.7
Gross floor area ratio (GFA): development plan allows 2 full stories
Building envelope, building line and boundary: marked in light blue, 3 m (10 ft) distance from neighbor
Edge development: allowed up to 9 m (30 ft)
Number of parking spaces: 2 (location still unclear, either next to or behind the house)
Stories: 2
Roof type: flat roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: see site plan
Maximum heights / limitations: 2 full stories; neighbor has a pitched roof and converted attic (very high)
Other requirements
Clients’ requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: modern
Basement, stories: no basement, 2 stories
Number of occupants, age: 2 persons, aged 30–40
Space requirements ground floor / upper floor: living, dining, kitchen, utility, office, guest WC, child 1, child 2, master bedroom, walk-in closet, master bathroom, children’s bathroom (approx. 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) living area)
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Guests per year: 5
Open or closed architecture: unknown
Conservative or modern building method: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen is schematic for now, should be a compromise
Number of dining seats: 4–6
Fireplace: yes
Music / audio wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: not planned yet, either on west side or behind the house
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why or why not
House design
Who designed the plan: initially ourselves; our planners are very busy and only deliver standard designs
What do you like especially? Why?
What do you dislike? Why? Bedroom still too large
Price estimate according to architect/planner: too expensive 🙂
Personal price limit for house including equipment:
Preferred heating system: air-source heat pump, we also requested geothermal options but efficiency differences seem small, so additional costs (about 15,000 without subsidy) don’t seem worthwhile?!
If you had to give up certain details / expansions
Functional rooms should stay as is. Fireplace could be removed if necessary. Our current draft included sliding / lift-and-slide elements, but since the window fronts have become smaller, we have taken these out for now. (3 sliding/lift-and-slide elements are included in calculation.) The angled wall is optional, just an idea.
Why is the design as it is now? For example
Standard design by the planner? The neighbor will build on the west side, so we came from a simple rectangle. All living areas face forward, service rooms in the back, entrance on the side.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
I would like general feedback so we don’t build nonsense. We have done a condominium before but never a house — where everything is flexible and actually too many options exist. The bedroom currently feels too large. We also want a washing machine upstairs so clothes don’t have to be carried through the house all the time. Perhaps laundry can be placed there. The house front on the building plot should protect us from the neighbor’s view, as he has many windows on his east side (our west side).
Thank you very much!
Moving the house a bit further north to create a second parking space next to or in front of the house would certainly not be a problem, and we also have space to the east, right? According to the development plan, we must provide two parking spaces within the building plot.
We didn’t want to move much further north to avoid being overlooked from the west... terrace area, rooms. To the west, there feels like a high-rise building, with large windows on its south and north sides.
Thanks for the feedback.
We didn’t want to move much further north to avoid being overlooked from the west... terrace area, rooms. To the west, there feels like a high-rise building, with large windows on its south and north sides.
Thanks for the feedback.
friday82 schrieb:
The house at the front of the plot is supposed to shield us from the neighbor’s view; on their east side (our west side) they also have quite a few windows. Are you building against the neighbor or for yourselves? Neighbor here, neighbor there. Neighbors have the same rights as you do. If you don’t like neighbors, then this is the wrong plot.
friday82 schrieb:
Neighbor is closing off the west side, ? At least they are staying within their building zone.
In that respect, I think it makes no sense to avoid windows on the west side. That block, sorry, has nothing to do with a house. In terms of orientation, you are turning away from a neighbor and your garden but opening up to the street. Untangle your thoughts and find a proper architect to create a design. Then you can take that to your general contractor.
friday82 schrieb:
According to the development plan, two parking spaces must also be provided within the building plot. I consider this requirement, as implemented, to be an overinterpretation.
friday82 schrieb:
We didn’t want to go much further north to avoid being visible from the west ... terrace area, rooms. To the west, it feels like there is a high-rise building. It has large windows on its east and north sides. A high-rise full of people who might count your pudding spoons for a maximum of three days and then never again? No sensible person would position their house in the shadow of such neighbors!
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Thank you very much for the feedback with the doctor.
We will try again to find a solution with an architect. Selling the plot was also something we had considered. The house on the east side was only built this year.
The ideal location at the back of the building site with a south/west-facing terrace is not an option for us personally due to privacy concerns.
Many thanks!
We will try again to find a solution with an architect. Selling the plot was also something we had considered. The house on the east side was only built this year.
The ideal location at the back of the building site with a south/west-facing terrace is not an option for us personally due to privacy concerns.
Many thanks!
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