ᐅ Modern house, approximately 160 sqm, optimized for space and functionality
Created on: 9 Dec 2020 22:20
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friday82
Hello dear forum,
I would like to tap into your collective expertise. We have the problem that the neighbor will build on the west side of the property, so we need to be a bit more creative. Otherwise, we would have simply placed the house as a rectangle towards the back of the lot. Another challenge is that it is a north-facing plot.
Most important questions
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (approximately 8600 sq ft)
Slope: flat
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.7
Gross floor area ratio (GFA): development plan allows 2 full stories
Building envelope, building line and boundary: marked in light blue, 3 m (10 ft) distance from neighbor
Edge development: allowed up to 9 m (30 ft)
Number of parking spaces: 2 (location still unclear, either next to or behind the house)
Stories: 2
Roof type: flat roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: see site plan
Maximum heights / limitations: 2 full stories; neighbor has a pitched roof and converted attic (very high)
Other requirements
Clients’ requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: modern
Basement, stories: no basement, 2 stories
Number of occupants, age: 2 persons, aged 30–40
Space requirements ground floor / upper floor: living, dining, kitchen, utility, office, guest WC, child 1, child 2, master bedroom, walk-in closet, master bathroom, children’s bathroom (approx. 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) living area)
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Guests per year: 5
Open or closed architecture: unknown
Conservative or modern building method: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen is schematic for now, should be a compromise
Number of dining seats: 4–6
Fireplace: yes
Music / audio wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: not planned yet, either on west side or behind the house
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why or why not
House design
Who designed the plan: initially ourselves; our planners are very busy and only deliver standard designs
What do you like especially? Why?
What do you dislike? Why? Bedroom still too large
Price estimate according to architect/planner: too expensive 🙂
Personal price limit for house including equipment:
Preferred heating system: air-source heat pump, we also requested geothermal options but efficiency differences seem small, so additional costs (about 15,000 without subsidy) don’t seem worthwhile?!
If you had to give up certain details / expansions
Functional rooms should stay as is. Fireplace could be removed if necessary. Our current draft included sliding / lift-and-slide elements, but since the window fronts have become smaller, we have taken these out for now. (3 sliding/lift-and-slide elements are included in calculation.) The angled wall is optional, just an idea.
Why is the design as it is now? For example
Standard design by the planner? The neighbor will build on the west side, so we came from a simple rectangle. All living areas face forward, service rooms in the back, entrance on the side.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
I would like general feedback so we don’t build nonsense. We have done a condominium before but never a house — where everything is flexible and actually too many options exist. The bedroom currently feels too large. We also want a washing machine upstairs so clothes don’t have to be carried through the house all the time. Perhaps laundry can be placed there. The house front on the building plot should protect us from the neighbor’s view, as he has many windows on his east side (our west side).
Thank you very much!



I would like to tap into your collective expertise. We have the problem that the neighbor will build on the west side of the property, so we need to be a bit more creative. Otherwise, we would have simply placed the house as a rectangle towards the back of the lot. Another challenge is that it is a north-facing plot.
Most important questions
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (approximately 8600 sq ft)
Slope: flat
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.7
Gross floor area ratio (GFA): development plan allows 2 full stories
Building envelope, building line and boundary: marked in light blue, 3 m (10 ft) distance from neighbor
Edge development: allowed up to 9 m (30 ft)
Number of parking spaces: 2 (location still unclear, either next to or behind the house)
Stories: 2
Roof type: flat roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: see site plan
Maximum heights / limitations: 2 full stories; neighbor has a pitched roof and converted attic (very high)
Other requirements
Clients’ requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: modern
Basement, stories: no basement, 2 stories
Number of occupants, age: 2 persons, aged 30–40
Space requirements ground floor / upper floor: living, dining, kitchen, utility, office, guest WC, child 1, child 2, master bedroom, walk-in closet, master bathroom, children’s bathroom (approx. 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) living area)
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Guests per year: 5
Open or closed architecture: unknown
Conservative or modern building method: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen is schematic for now, should be a compromise
Number of dining seats: 4–6
Fireplace: yes
Music / audio wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: not planned yet, either on west side or behind the house
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why or why not
House design
Who designed the plan: initially ourselves; our planners are very busy and only deliver standard designs
What do you like especially? Why?
What do you dislike? Why? Bedroom still too large
Price estimate according to architect/planner: too expensive 🙂
Personal price limit for house including equipment:
Preferred heating system: air-source heat pump, we also requested geothermal options but efficiency differences seem small, so additional costs (about 15,000 without subsidy) don’t seem worthwhile?!
If you had to give up certain details / expansions
Functional rooms should stay as is. Fireplace could be removed if necessary. Our current draft included sliding / lift-and-slide elements, but since the window fronts have become smaller, we have taken these out for now. (3 sliding/lift-and-slide elements are included in calculation.) The angled wall is optional, just an idea.
Why is the design as it is now? For example
Standard design by the planner? The neighbor will build on the west side, so we came from a simple rectangle. All living areas face forward, service rooms in the back, entrance on the side.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
I would like general feedback so we don’t build nonsense. We have done a condominium before but never a house — where everything is flexible and actually too many options exist. The bedroom currently feels too large. We also want a washing machine upstairs so clothes don’t have to be carried through the house all the time. Perhaps laundry can be placed there. The house front on the building plot should protect us from the neighbor’s view, as he has many windows on his east side (our west side).
Thank you very much!
Then orient the house towards the garden.
No parking spaces but high costs for the courtyard.
Small terrace almost on the street. Where is the privacy there?
Garden behind the house not developed.
Is your neighbor Hannibal Lecter?
What do you mean by a block?
I can't understand why you placed the house like this. Don’t even get me started on the interior. It can be done more cost-effectively.
No parking spaces but high costs for the courtyard.
Small terrace almost on the street. Where is the privacy there?
Garden behind the house not developed.
Is your neighbor Hannibal Lecter?
What do you mean by a block?
I can't understand why you placed the house like this. Don’t even get me started on the interior. It can be done more cost-effectively.
friday82 schrieb:
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Because of neighbors and views.
It’s boring— as long as there’s no surveillance, it’s uninteresting. My neighbor is a doctor. From his waiting room (where people get bored and really have nothing to do except stare), you can see through our children’s room all the way to the bathroom.
I have never seen anyone staring. Even those who hang out by the garden wall and smoke usually don’t notice anything.
It’s boring— as long as there’s no surveillance, it’s uninteresting. My neighbor is a doctor. From his waiting room (where people get bored and really have nothing to do except stare), you can see through our children’s room all the way to the bathroom.
I have never seen anyone staring. Even those who hang out by the garden wall and smoke usually don’t notice anything.
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pagoni202010 Dec 2020 12:33friday82 schrieb:
We had also considered selling the plot of land.I would take more time to really deal with THAT first before thinking about a heat pump or similar. In the end, that doesn’t matter if you don’t feel comfortable in your place. Then, neither a standard government-subsidized loan nor high-tech solutions will help if you look out the window or at the wall built there with stomach aches because you wanted to avoid the neighbor’s view.I wanted to find out whether I’m overestimating this a bit or if I actually have this expectation/priority. Then I’d sell the plot, even if it means accepting disadvantages like distance and so on.
We bought a plot that we didn’t even want to visit initially, but then we happened to pass by and it felt different on site than expected.
A neighbor 500 meters (about 550 yards) away can ultimately annoy you more than a tenant; physical proximity alone is not always decisive.
I don’t understand that angled wall because, in my opinion, it only brings disadvantages.
Are the registered square meter (sq meter) areas of the rooms on the ground floor, such as "Living2 16.3," actually correct?
I find it amusing that the term "children’s room" was omitted and replaced with "kid’s room," only to switch quite unusually to the French term "Toilette," where I would have preferred the original German term "Abort."
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