Hello, I want to install a Sonos 5.1 system in our new build using a Sonos Amp (already available), an existing subwoofer, two Sonos One speakers (available) for the front, and two Sonos One as ceiling speakers (rear) above the couch (freestanding in the room). However, I’m not very happy with the look of having two network outlets, two power sockets, and the two ceiling mounts in the concrete ceiling.
So now I am considering installing the passive Sonos Architectural ceiling speakers. The concrete ceiling is 20 cm (8 inches) thick plus plaster. I don’t think it will be possible to cut a hole 13 cm (5 inches) deep and 21 cm (8 inches) wide into the ceiling to fully recess the speaker. Are there any mounting frames available that would allow the speakers to stick out a bit? Or any other ideas on how this could be done? Or different speakers?
Kind regards,
Ben
So now I am considering installing the passive Sonos Architectural ceiling speakers. The concrete ceiling is 20 cm (8 inches) thick plus plaster. I don’t think it will be possible to cut a hole 13 cm (5 inches) deep and 21 cm (8 inches) wide into the ceiling to fully recess the speaker. Are there any mounting frames available that would allow the speakers to stick out a bit? Or any other ideas on how this could be done? Or different speakers?
Kind regards,
Ben
nordanney schrieb:
Off Topic: How does that work? As far as I know, only with Playbar or similar as center and front (Right/Left) plus 2x rearYou’re right, it’s not possible. I was misinformed. You can only use Arc, Beam, Playbase (and correspondingly Playbar) as the complete front, and then any individual speakers as rears. This also makes me see Sonos as a less ideal option for a home theater.
@imsi123: Why Sonos specifically? Do you already have many of their products?
For a home theater, I would rather recommend a dedicated system with appropriate passive speakers. In a new build, you can run suitable conduit for speaker cables or even install speaker terminals at the intended positions...
Ok, I’ve read the original post more carefully again.
The first thing I don’t understand is why you want to use a Sonos Amp together with Sonos One speakers as front channels. The Ones are active speakers, right?
If Sonos as a streaming multi-room solution is important to you, I would recommend a classic home theater system with an AV receiver and a Sonos Port in the living area. Use the already existing Play 1 speakers in secondary rooms and on the patio, the subwoofer to support the most important secondary room, and sell the Amp. If you want to continue using the Amp with traditional stereo speakers, I would build the home theater system around those stereo speakers (with Port and AV receiver).
With the approach you are considering, you will only get 4.0 multichannel stereo with subwoofer support. That is not a true home theater system.
The first thing I don’t understand is why you want to use a Sonos Amp together with Sonos One speakers as front channels. The Ones are active speakers, right?
If Sonos as a streaming multi-room solution is important to you, I would recommend a classic home theater system with an AV receiver and a Sonos Port in the living area. Use the already existing Play 1 speakers in secondary rooms and on the patio, the subwoofer to support the most important secondary room, and sell the Amp. If you want to continue using the Amp with traditional stereo speakers, I would build the home theater system around those stereo speakers (with Port and AV receiver).
With the approach you are considering, you will only get 4.0 multichannel stereo with subwoofer support. That is not a true home theater system.
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NatureSys29 Jun 2020 12:31I would definitely not have the current solution built into the ceiling. At some point, you will want a different, newer system, and then you will be left with holes in the ceiling that you no longer need. A flexible system with rails, studs, etc., is much more future-proof.
@Tolentino: You are absolutely right, my setup was wrong! I combined an amplifier with old passive front speakers plus a subwoofer, and I also have two Sonos One speakers for the rear sitting here. We replaced the old 5.1 system for aesthetic and practical reasons, and now use Sonos in the living room to stream radio, songs, audiobooks, etc. from the NAS. My wife no longer wants to have that speaker standing around. So, a new 5.1 system is out of the question. Using bookshelf speakers plus a subwoofer for the front and something on the ceiling is the only alternative currently working. However, I want to keep the option open to upgrade the system later.
I was at the hi-fi store again this afternoon and they even said that the amplifier is not suitable for home theater at all. Only in combination with a new ARC soundbar for $900. And that’s definitely wrong! (OR IS IT??) The amplifier can process and play 5.1 data input through the two front speakers, two wireless Sonos for the rear plus the subwoofer (and the center channel is simulated).
Regarding the rear speakers: My wife won’t agree to mounting them on the walls. Placing another shelf behind the sofa might be possible but probably quite tight. Speaker stands are not an option. That leaves only the ceiling... The store advised against using in-ceiling speakers in a concrete ceiling without an additional resonance chamber. That would be more suitable for suspended ceilings. But the seller was right about one thing: I can do without network sockets; the Wi-Fi from the amplifier will definitely be strong enough. So, I could now plan for two ceiling outlets and at the same time have two speaker cables pulled there and back to the TV. Then I could either control the Sonos wirelessly and possibly even use passive speakers later via the speaker cables?!
I was at the hi-fi store again this afternoon and they even said that the amplifier is not suitable for home theater at all. Only in combination with a new ARC soundbar for $900. And that’s definitely wrong! (OR IS IT??) The amplifier can process and play 5.1 data input through the two front speakers, two wireless Sonos for the rear plus the subwoofer (and the center channel is simulated).
Regarding the rear speakers: My wife won’t agree to mounting them on the walls. Placing another shelf behind the sofa might be possible but probably quite tight. Speaker stands are not an option. That leaves only the ceiling... The store advised against using in-ceiling speakers in a concrete ceiling without an additional resonance chamber. That would be more suitable for suspended ceilings. But the seller was right about one thing: I can do without network sockets; the Wi-Fi from the amplifier will definitely be strong enough. So, I could now plan for two ceiling outlets and at the same time have two speaker cables pulled there and back to the TV. Then I could either control the Sonos wirelessly and possibly even use passive speakers later via the speaker cables?!
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