ᐅ House and Floor Plan Design – Initial Architect’s Draft Available
Created on: 14 Oct 2020 18:29
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Pinkiponk
As previously announced, our old house in Baden-Württemberg has now been sold, we have moved to the Leipzig district, and we can now focus on our new house. Due to our age, we have deliberately downsized both the lot size and the living space. We have a first architect’s draft. I have already noted a few change requests and am now looking forward to your additions, criticism, and suggestions. If further plans or similar are needed, I will gladly provide them as long as I have them available.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to help me.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Lot size: 567sqm (6,105 sqft)
Slope: visually not noticeable; if this is important information, I will look for where to find it
Site occupancy index: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see attached drawing
Edge development: not allowed/desired on our part
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: classic, conservative
Orientation: ?
Maximum heights/limits: “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to ridge height of main roof max. 11.5 meters (38 feet)”; “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to eave height of main roof max. 7.0 meters (23 feet)”
Further requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: we are trying to approximate the house shown in the photo below; however, without the gable projection; classic/conservative, hipped roof, town house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 1 male, 64 years old – 1 female, 58 years old
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor → kitchen, shower bathroom, living/lounge room, utility room with kitchenette and floor drain, hallway;
Upper floor → bathroom with tub, bedroom, 2 “wardrobe and storage rooms”
Office: family use or home office? Couple without children, no home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 10
Open or closed architecture: open on the outside, closed on the inside
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: no, classical L-shaped kitchen or similar (the plan includes a cooking island that will not be built)
Number of dining seats: 2 in the kitchen, up to 6–8 in the living/lounge room
Fireplace: gas stove chimney
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: both no
Garage, carport: 2 arched carports
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: both no
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be
House Design
Who created the plan:
– Planner from a construction company: yes, in cooperation with the clients
– Architect: unclear
– Do-it-yourself: yes, in cooperation with the prefabricated house manufacturer’s planner
What do you especially like? Why? Many windows and patio doors, lots of natural light and fresh air
What do you not like? Why? The windows on the upper floor are too low in the plan, but this will be changed
Price estimate according to architect/planner: already commissioned offer/order €312,780.00 (without carport, outdoor facilities, additional construction costs, land, ...)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: €400,000.00
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal (according to legal requirements)
If you have to forgo something, which details/upgrades
– What you can give up: we are already giving up shutters, whirlpool
– What you cannot give up: many windows and patio doors, muntins in the windows and doors
Why is the design as it is? For example:
A mixture of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think makes it good or bad? It generally meets our wishes. On the ground floor, we want access to the garden from every room. We find symmetry more pleasing than asymmetry. Few different window and door formats. No horizontal (“lying”) windows. Each of us has a separate room for clothing and such, so that no wardrobes have to be placed in the bedroom. We do not want a separate dressing room.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The roof seems somewhat steep to me. Is a 30-degree roof pitch for a house with a base of 9.40m x 9.40m (31 feet x 31 feet) too steep? The standard according to the provider is 22 degrees. That seemed too flat, or you can hardly see the roof.
The development plan was too large to upload; I will try again in a separate post in this thread.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to help me.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Lot size: 567sqm (6,105 sqft)
Slope: visually not noticeable; if this is important information, I will look for where to find it
Site occupancy index: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see attached drawing
Edge development: not allowed/desired on our part
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: classic, conservative
Orientation: ?
Maximum heights/limits: “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to ridge height of main roof max. 11.5 meters (38 feet)”; “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to eave height of main roof max. 7.0 meters (23 feet)”
Further requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: we are trying to approximate the house shown in the photo below; however, without the gable projection; classic/conservative, hipped roof, town house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 1 male, 64 years old – 1 female, 58 years old
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor → kitchen, shower bathroom, living/lounge room, utility room with kitchenette and floor drain, hallway;
Upper floor → bathroom with tub, bedroom, 2 “wardrobe and storage rooms”
Office: family use or home office? Couple without children, no home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 10
Open or closed architecture: open on the outside, closed on the inside
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: no, classical L-shaped kitchen or similar (the plan includes a cooking island that will not be built)
Number of dining seats: 2 in the kitchen, up to 6–8 in the living/lounge room
Fireplace: gas stove chimney
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: both no
Garage, carport: 2 arched carports
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: both no
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be
House Design
Who created the plan:
– Planner from a construction company: yes, in cooperation with the clients
– Architect: unclear
– Do-it-yourself: yes, in cooperation with the prefabricated house manufacturer’s planner
What do you especially like? Why? Many windows and patio doors, lots of natural light and fresh air
What do you not like? Why? The windows on the upper floor are too low in the plan, but this will be changed
Price estimate according to architect/planner: already commissioned offer/order €312,780.00 (without carport, outdoor facilities, additional construction costs, land, ...)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: €400,000.00
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal (according to legal requirements)
If you have to forgo something, which details/upgrades
– What you can give up: we are already giving up shutters, whirlpool
– What you cannot give up: many windows and patio doors, muntins in the windows and doors
Why is the design as it is? For example:
A mixture of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think makes it good or bad? It generally meets our wishes. On the ground floor, we want access to the garden from every room. We find symmetry more pleasing than asymmetry. Few different window and door formats. No horizontal (“lying”) windows. Each of us has a separate room for clothing and such, so that no wardrobes have to be placed in the bedroom. We do not want a separate dressing room.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The roof seems somewhat steep to me. Is a 30-degree roof pitch for a house with a base of 9.40m x 9.40m (31 feet x 31 feet) too steep? The standard according to the provider is 22 degrees. That seemed too flat, or you can hardly see the roof.
The development plan was too large to upload; I will try again in a separate post in this thread.
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Pinkiponk18 Oct 2020 08:55ypg schrieb:
Me neither. That’s why I designed it myself in my new build.
You won’t find it ready-made; you plan it yourself and then enjoy it. With that, this discussion is closed. I see you built on a completely different level than we did, and I really admire that. If I remember correctly, I’ve seen a photo of your house before and was impressed by its beauty and elegance, even though it is almost the exact opposite of what I envision. An interesting contrast.
Please understand that I’m simply not ready yet to focus on the details of wardrobe planning. I just don’t have the energy for it at the moment. I would need weeks or months just for the wardrobe alone, especially since I believe that once I am actually in the room, I will find a pleasant solution that fits us— even if that means just putting hooks on the hot water tank (HWT) door. But there are other options as well, like under the stairs, or perhaps a wall-mounted coat rack in the hallway. I own very nice bamboo shoe cabinets that are delicate and elegant, which I could still place in the hallway if I want to. I see possibilities but don’t want to commit yet.
Regarding the wardrobe, for example: The original standard plan had a separate niche that we gave up in favor of the bathroom shower. However, I wouldn’t have used that niche as a wardrobe anyway; I would have hung a picture there instead.
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Pinkiponk18 Oct 2020 09:03Pinky0301 schrieb:
You still have plenty of options to make sure it doesn’t end up too small. Personally, I really love a spacious entrance area! Unfortunately, we can’t fit a long coat rack here. I really like those with tall cabinets on the outside and smaller ones in the middle to sit on. I grabbed a picture from Pinterest.
But I don’t want to change your mind if you feel you don’t need something like that. Thanks for the photo. It’s an elegant, beautiful solution, but for me personally, it feels a bit too much built-in and obviously practical. But definitely nice, no doubt. In that case, I would prefer a solution where the cabinets blend in with the surrounding wallpaper, so the cabinets become almost invisible. But what do you do if you don’t have the space for that? Every extra bit of space I dedicate to a coat area in the hallway is missing either from the hallway itself or from one of the adjacent rooms. Still, you’ve given me a good idea. Maybe I can find a compromise between your photo and my idea of a, if anything, invisible coat storage.
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Pinkiponk18 Oct 2020 09:05Flocko1 schrieb:
The main thing is that @Pinkiponk and her husband feel comfortable in their house later on.That will not depend on the house but on me and my husband. And we certainly will.P
Pinkiponk18 Oct 2020 09:12Snowy36 schrieb:
This seems to me to be a completely normal house / to become one, with a completely normal budget that hundreds of ordinary people have (except for the kitchen issue)... and they are not all unhappy either...I think so too. I have no other expectations. What is important to me, I have already explained and will implement. And I can live well with the actual or perceived flaws, because for me they are not flaws but possibly tiny shortcomings that I accept in exchange for advantages that are important to me or my husband elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
Not everyone here can have a Rick or Climbee house...
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What is a Rick house?
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Pinkiponk18 Oct 2020 09:15Shiny86 schrieb:
I’m also really happy to have 2.5m (8 feet 2 inches) for a cloakroom/wardrobe area. I don’t regret planning it at all. I’m going to build something similar to what @Pinky0301 posted using kitchen cabinets! For me, a well-designed wardrobe space is a highlight of the house. I love having plenty of storage and everything looking neat and organized. May I ask how large your (ground floor?) hallway is and how many people live in your house?
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