ᐅ House and Floor Plan Design – Initial Architect’s Draft Available
Created on: 14 Oct 2020 18:29
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Pinkiponk
As previously announced, our old house in Baden-Württemberg has now been sold, we have moved to the Leipzig district, and we can now focus on our new house. Due to our age, we have deliberately downsized both the lot size and the living space. We have a first architect’s draft. I have already noted a few change requests and am now looking forward to your additions, criticism, and suggestions. If further plans or similar are needed, I will gladly provide them as long as I have them available.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to help me.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Lot size: 567sqm (6,105 sqft)
Slope: visually not noticeable; if this is important information, I will look for where to find it
Site occupancy index: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see attached drawing
Edge development: not allowed/desired on our part
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: classic, conservative
Orientation: ?
Maximum heights/limits: “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to ridge height of main roof max. 11.5 meters (38 feet)”; “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to eave height of main roof max. 7.0 meters (23 feet)”
Further requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: we are trying to approximate the house shown in the photo below; however, without the gable projection; classic/conservative, hipped roof, town house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 1 male, 64 years old – 1 female, 58 years old
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor → kitchen, shower bathroom, living/lounge room, utility room with kitchenette and floor drain, hallway;
Upper floor → bathroom with tub, bedroom, 2 “wardrobe and storage rooms”
Office: family use or home office? Couple without children, no home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 10
Open or closed architecture: open on the outside, closed on the inside
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: no, classical L-shaped kitchen or similar (the plan includes a cooking island that will not be built)
Number of dining seats: 2 in the kitchen, up to 6–8 in the living/lounge room
Fireplace: gas stove chimney
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: both no
Garage, carport: 2 arched carports
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: both no
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be
House Design
Who created the plan:
– Planner from a construction company: yes, in cooperation with the clients
– Architect: unclear
– Do-it-yourself: yes, in cooperation with the prefabricated house manufacturer’s planner
What do you especially like? Why? Many windows and patio doors, lots of natural light and fresh air
What do you not like? Why? The windows on the upper floor are too low in the plan, but this will be changed
Price estimate according to architect/planner: already commissioned offer/order €312,780.00 (without carport, outdoor facilities, additional construction costs, land, ...)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: €400,000.00
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal (according to legal requirements)
If you have to forgo something, which details/upgrades
– What you can give up: we are already giving up shutters, whirlpool
– What you cannot give up: many windows and patio doors, muntins in the windows and doors
Why is the design as it is? For example:
A mixture of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think makes it good or bad? It generally meets our wishes. On the ground floor, we want access to the garden from every room. We find symmetry more pleasing than asymmetry. Few different window and door formats. No horizontal (“lying”) windows. Each of us has a separate room for clothing and such, so that no wardrobes have to be placed in the bedroom. We do not want a separate dressing room.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The roof seems somewhat steep to me. Is a 30-degree roof pitch for a house with a base of 9.40m x 9.40m (31 feet x 31 feet) too steep? The standard according to the provider is 22 degrees. That seemed too flat, or you can hardly see the roof.
The development plan was too large to upload; I will try again in a separate post in this thread.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to help me.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Lot size: 567sqm (6,105 sqft)
Slope: visually not noticeable; if this is important information, I will look for where to find it
Site occupancy index: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see attached drawing
Edge development: not allowed/desired on our part
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: classic, conservative
Orientation: ?
Maximum heights/limits: “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to ridge height of main roof max. 11.5 meters (38 feet)”; “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to eave height of main roof max. 7.0 meters (23 feet)”
Further requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: we are trying to approximate the house shown in the photo below; however, without the gable projection; classic/conservative, hipped roof, town house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 1 male, 64 years old – 1 female, 58 years old
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor → kitchen, shower bathroom, living/lounge room, utility room with kitchenette and floor drain, hallway;
Upper floor → bathroom with tub, bedroom, 2 “wardrobe and storage rooms”
Office: family use or home office? Couple without children, no home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 10
Open or closed architecture: open on the outside, closed on the inside
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: no, classical L-shaped kitchen or similar (the plan includes a cooking island that will not be built)
Number of dining seats: 2 in the kitchen, up to 6–8 in the living/lounge room
Fireplace: gas stove chimney
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: both no
Garage, carport: 2 arched carports
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: both no
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be
House Design
Who created the plan:
– Planner from a construction company: yes, in cooperation with the clients
– Architect: unclear
– Do-it-yourself: yes, in cooperation with the prefabricated house manufacturer’s planner
What do you especially like? Why? Many windows and patio doors, lots of natural light and fresh air
What do you not like? Why? The windows on the upper floor are too low in the plan, but this will be changed
Price estimate according to architect/planner: already commissioned offer/order €312,780.00 (without carport, outdoor facilities, additional construction costs, land, ...)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: €400,000.00
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal (according to legal requirements)
If you have to forgo something, which details/upgrades
– What you can give up: we are already giving up shutters, whirlpool
– What you cannot give up: many windows and patio doors, muntins in the windows and doors
Why is the design as it is? For example:
A mixture of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think makes it good or bad? It generally meets our wishes. On the ground floor, we want access to the garden from every room. We find symmetry more pleasing than asymmetry. Few different window and door formats. No horizontal (“lying”) windows. Each of us has a separate room for clothing and such, so that no wardrobes have to be placed in the bedroom. We do not want a separate dressing room.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The roof seems somewhat steep to me. Is a 30-degree roof pitch for a house with a base of 9.40m x 9.40m (31 feet x 31 feet) too steep? The standard according to the provider is 22 degrees. That seemed too flat, or you can hardly see the roof.
The development plan was too large to upload; I will try again in a separate post in this thread.
I wouldn’t worry about acquiring a house with too much money. Not that I’m good with plants – but to show someone how to invest the equivalent of a Lamborghini in landscaping is definitely enough.
That windows and patio doors would be a main topic: sorry, I just don’t see it from any angle. Being misused to say there’s no space for furniture at that spot neither deserves the patio door nor serves the house’s beauty. And since @rick2018 was already mentioned here: in his house, I can at least appreciate in many places where his taste differs from mine, as a pluralist, that he embraced the “freedom of differing opinions” in building. But here I unfortunately only see a tired copy of the “@Shiny86 Edition” concept: “take a basic model from the top tier of lack of imagination and work hard to arrange the windows even more rigidly.”
For a tent roof, I’d go with 25°, but I wouldn’t condemn the 22° of the general contractor’s standard either. However, a tent roof goes with a square base, and I would move away from that. A non-square rectangle would give more flexibility – also for a bathroom that wouldn’t look like an afterthought in the floor plan. You start your day in the bathroom, and “you should start the day positively,” as Dr. Eberlein already said. I gladly renew my offer to guide you to a nice house – mind you, on the condition that there’s no compulsion to symmetry (otherwise, I might as well go to a dominatrix). I would have liked to recommend the house of @daniels87 for inspiration, but you probably would have walked away disgusted right away because of the open kitchen alone. But the building’s form is aesthetic (and I could adapt it for tall, narrow windows with casings), and the garden is exemplary (and you should also check out @Climbee, @Steffi33, and @Winniefred) – plus the utility room would appeal to your husband. Why don’t you post a cadastral map excerpt here so we can plan properly with the building envelope? Your amateur site plan is not worth a penny, and the huge zoning plan doesn’t show the property boundaries. Did you kill your father and mother, or why do you want to punish yourself with this self-flagellating floor plan? No teddy bear collection can beautify that.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Pinkiponk schrieb:
Windows and patio doors are almost my main topic. [...] And everywhere there’s a window or patio door, there’s no furniture (possibly with contents) that I have to maintain.
That windows and patio doors would be a main topic: sorry, I just don’t see it from any angle. Being misused to say there’s no space for furniture at that spot neither deserves the patio door nor serves the house’s beauty. And since @rick2018 was already mentioned here: in his house, I can at least appreciate in many places where his taste differs from mine, as a pluralist, that he embraced the “freedom of differing opinions” in building. But here I unfortunately only see a tired copy of the “@Shiny86 Edition” concept: “take a basic model from the top tier of lack of imagination and work hard to arrange the windows even more rigidly.”
Pinkiponk schrieb:
- What roof pitch should the tent roof have?
- How large should the windows be? I prefer narrow, taller windows rather than wide, shorter ones.
For a tent roof, I’d go with 25°, but I wouldn’t condemn the 22° of the general contractor’s standard either. However, a tent roof goes with a square base, and I would move away from that. A non-square rectangle would give more flexibility – also for a bathroom that wouldn’t look like an afterthought in the floor plan. You start your day in the bathroom, and “you should start the day positively,” as Dr. Eberlein already said. I gladly renew my offer to guide you to a nice house – mind you, on the condition that there’s no compulsion to symmetry (otherwise, I might as well go to a dominatrix). I would have liked to recommend the house of @daniels87 for inspiration, but you probably would have walked away disgusted right away because of the open kitchen alone. But the building’s form is aesthetic (and I could adapt it for tall, narrow windows with casings), and the garden is exemplary (and you should also check out @Climbee, @Steffi33, and @Winniefred) – plus the utility room would appeal to your husband. Why don’t you post a cadastral map excerpt here so we can plan properly with the building envelope? Your amateur site plan is not worth a penny, and the huge zoning plan doesn’t show the property boundaries. Did you kill your father and mother, or why do you want to punish yourself with this self-flagellating floor plan? No teddy bear collection can beautify that.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
haydee schrieb:
Exactly, steffi33 has the front yard I was referring toI have already mentioned Steffi as well.In summary, I think this thread misses the point: for the question of what roof pitch or how wide a window should be, there is no need to fill out a detailed questionnaire in a floor plan discussion forum. I see this "missing the point" or similarly "wasting resources" not only in the house but throughout the entire thread for everyone, whether it concerns time, patience, or the building plot.
Does your everyday wardrobe still fit in the utility room? The technical equipment requires space, often more than you expect. The washing machine and dryer are included in the initial layout there. If I remember correctly, your husband is supposed to have a hobby room there, and now you want to add a wardrobe as well.
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Pinkiponk17 Oct 2020 18:29The washing machine was included in the plans by the architect; we will most likely place it in the upstairs bathroom. We do not have a dryer. I misspoke when I said "hobby room"—my husband only needs a kitchen sink and a small portable table. For the coat rack, I imagine a few attractive but space-saving hooks on the door. The utility room is about the size of our previous bedroom, so we have a rough idea of the available space.
I agree that your planning unfortunately comes across as somewhat thoughtless. For many of the topics you mention, you suggest quick fixes (for example, coat hooks on the door). When building a new home, you have so many opportunities to find better and more practical solutions. Staying with the coats: why would you prefer to hang them on the door (which is far too high for me and doesn’t really hold much, especially in winter) instead of having a nice and practical coat rack? What about shoes and accessories? How do you feel about having a seating area for putting on shoes?
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