You come back from vacation and receive an email about a gas price increase.
A quick look: the consumption price has doubled, and the base price is 25% higher.
And you, who also have a gas heating system?
@Nordlys I know… but who else?
A quick look: the consumption price has doubled, and the base price is 25% higher.
And you, who also have a gas heating system?
@Nordlys I know… but who else?
I don’t want to destroy anyone’s hope here, but with the upcoming energy transition, the current price increases in fossil fuels will unfortunately only be the beginning.
In terms of electricity prices, the government will intervene in the short to medium term to prevent prices from rising even more sharply. Most of these costs are taxes and surcharges anyway.
In terms of electricity prices, the government will intervene in the short to medium term to prevent prices from rising even more sharply. Most of these costs are taxes and surcharges anyway.
That will be the case. But heat pump owners have paid around 10,000 (currency) for their system, while gas boilers cost about 2,500 (currency). (Prices for Junkers heat pump vs. Junkers Cerapur gas boiler)
Gas would need to be significantly more expensive for many years to make up the difference.
Gas would need to be significantly more expensive for many years to make up the difference.
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HilfeHilfe16 Nov 2021 11:49Nordlys schrieb:
That will be the case. But heat pump owners have paid around 10,000 (about 10,000) for their units, while gas burners cost 2,500 (about 2,500). (Prices for Junkers heat pump vs. Junkers Cerapur gas boiler)
So gas prices would have to be higher for many years.And still, I need electricity for that unit, which is also increasing significantly. I can't find the logic.H
hampshire16 Nov 2021 11:51halmi schrieb:
I don’t want to ruin anyone’s hopes, but with the upcoming energy transition, the current price increases in the fossil fuels sector will unfortunately only be the beginning. I see the price trend the same way. I would like to clarify the reason a bit: the price driver is not the sustainable alternative to fossil fuels, but the internalization of climate damages into the price, initially through a moderate CO2 tax.
halmi schrieb:
In the short to medium term, the government will intervene in electricity prices to prevent them from rising sharply, since most of the costs are taxes and surcharges anyway. Specifically, four possible interventions come to mind:
- Rolling back exemptions from the Renewable Energy Act surcharge. It is mainly the uneven distribution of surcharge costs that makes electricity so expensive for private households.
- Subsidizing rather than double taxing grid-stabilizing storage systems.
- Regulations for the strategic integration of gas power plants in grid stabilization – this technical solution is currently not utilized due to the Renewable Energy Act surcharge system.
- Solutions for low-income households – I am not sure exactly what these will look like.
Nordlys schrieb:
That will be the case. But heat pump owners have paid around 10,000, while gas burners cost 2,500. (Prices for Junkers heat pump vs. Junkers Cerapur gas boiler)
So gas would have to remain much more expensive for many years. HilfeHilfe schrieb:
And still I need electricity for that thing, which is also rising dramatically. Find the error. And the chimney, gas connection, possibly solar thermal system as well as hot water storage tank probably came for free 🙄 But thanks a lot for perfectly illustrating my post from yesterday.
And just so it sinks into the fossil fuel minds: electricity can be generated easily and cleanly by yourself, gas cannot.
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