You come back from vacation and receive an email about a gas price increase.
A quick look: the consumption price has doubled, and the base price is 25% higher.
And you, who also have a gas heating system?
@Nordlys I know… but who else?
A quick look: the consumption price has doubled, and the base price is 25% higher.
And you, who also have a gas heating system?
@Nordlys I know… but who else?
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hanghaus200015 Nov 2021 11:30My supplier gave me an offer 4 weeks ago. Unfortunately, I didn’t accept it. 😡
18 years ago, I managed with 1200 euros per year. Next year, it will definitely be at least double.
Oil prices are rising, and our new government is doing whatever it can to contribute to that.
Ignoring the blackmail from Lukashenko or Putin.
18 years ago, I managed with 1200 euros per year. Next year, it will definitely be at least double.
Oil prices are rising, and our new government is doing whatever it can to contribute to that.
Ignoring the blackmail from Lukashenko or Putin.
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Benutzer20015 Nov 2021 11:35MayrCh schrieb:
Well, sooner or later a price increase will come after the fixed-price period ends, regardless of whether it’s with the current or future supplier. That may be true. However, the current high gas price is not the result of a general trend but caused by special factors. Therefore, the situation will be quite different in six months (the market is already easing). With a fixed gas price contract, you wouldn’t have to worry now, and whether there are 3% additional costs in 2023 doesn’t really matter in the end.
MayrCh schrieb:
Most fixed-price clauses also usually only apply with certain restrictions, typically concerning factors that the utility company can directly influence. Purchase prices generally don’t count. You’re referring to factors like taxes, etc. The company can (and recently did with the VAT reduction to 16%) pass those on. Increased procurement costs are the company’s own misfortune and must not lead to price increases. That is not permitted—no matter where. Besides, any reputable company entering fixed-price contracts has concluded supply agreements for several years and is not currently affected by price increases for its existing customers. Of course, there are always unscrupulous companies trying to take advantage, but there are always bad apples.
MayrCh schrieb:
That has little to do with stupidity or laziness. In that respect, it actually is stupidity or laziness. A contract from mid-2020 would have guaranteed complete stability until mid-2022. Moreover, the gas costs would have been even lower than the basic supply tariff, which is already among the most expensive tariffs by default.
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hanghaus200015 Nov 2021 11:39Rising energy costs are affecting not only homeowners. Many tenants will also be surprised when they receive their bills.
Now I will have to tackle the topic of photovoltaic systems after all.
Now I will have to tackle the topic of photovoltaic systems after all.
I just calculated our consumption (17,000 kWh) … Without the recent price increases, our monthly cost was around 105 EUR (last bill). After the price increase, it will be about 130 EUR. I checked Verivox quickly … unfortunately, none of the current rates fit, they are all more expensive.
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Well, maybe it’s not that silly at the moment. I just checked, and the default tariff from my local utility provider is currently a full 30% CHEAPER than the cheapest offer on comparison sites... Unbelievable, really crazy times...
Best regards,
Andreas
Benutzer200 schrieb:
A possibly silly question: Why are you still with the default energy supplier and haven’t signed a fixed-price contract?
Well, maybe it’s not that silly at the moment. I just checked, and the default tariff from my local utility provider is currently a full 30% CHEAPER than the cheapest offer on comparison sites... Unbelievable, really crazy times...
Best regards,
Andreas
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Benutzer20015 Nov 2021 12:21andimann schrieb:
I just checked, and the basic supply tariff from my local utility provider is currently a full 30% CHEAPER than the cheapest offer on comparison websites... Unbelievable, truly crazy times.... Fingers crossed. Either the supplier stocked up well and long-term, or a price increase is just a matter of time. I hope for your sake that the basic supplier planned carefully.
I just looked, just for fun, for my tenant. She’s still heating with oil – from the end of August to today, that’s a 20% price increase!