ᐅ Initial Floor Plan Draft for Semi-Detached House with 90 m² Floor Area
Created on: 1 Aug 2020 21:38
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Endlich1985
Good evening everyone,
after our development plan was finally completed due to an initial error by the city, I would like to present the first draft from our architectural draftsman. The original purchase of the plot was in 11/2019 (at that time actually with a completed development plan). Due to the error, subsequent changes, public re-exhibition, and the Corona pandemic, it has taken until now to start planning.
I have included the recommended question list and tried to answer it to the best of my knowledge. Please feel free to ask if you have any questions. This is my first thread, so please be patient with me.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 355m² (3,820 sq ft)
Slope: No.
Floor area ratio, plot ratio: not known, max. 90m² (970 sq ft) ground floor area, building envelope/boundary 11.5 x 8 m (38 x 26 ft)
Edge development: Semi-detached house, built on one side at the plot boundary.
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full stories
Roof type: Shed roof up to max. 11 degrees or flat roof allowed, planned as shed roof with 11 degrees.
Architectural style: "Modern," meaning white, anthracite, possibly wooden elements on the facade, similar to hundreds of new buildings nowadays.
Orientation: Terrace faces south.
Maximum heights/limits: North wall 6.3 m (21 ft), reference point is the filled ground level but max. 10 cm (4 inches) above the nearest manhole cover. This will be used in case of high groundwater levels.
Other requirements: None that I consider relevant for evaluating the floor plan.
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: as above, shed roof, semi-detached house
Basement, floors: fully basement, 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, 34 and 35 years old, 2 children, 1 and 3 years old.
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor with WC and shower, kitchen, living area, preferably open plan.
Upper floor with 3 bedrooms plus bathroom.
The "attic" is intended mainly as storage, the front part about 17m² (183 sq ft) with a room height over 2 m (6 ft 7 in) possibly for occasional guests or as a playroom, the rear part as crawl space.
In the basement, aside from the technical room and a "cool" storage room (both on the north side), no specific requirements.
Office: none.
Annual guest stays: 7-8
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: Architectural draftsman
What we particularly like: It basically matches our expectations; there are many play options on the upper and attic floors, and basement options in my opinion are limited. In the basement, one could consider combining the two southern rooms into one.
What we don’t like: On the ground floor, we are somewhat unsure about the layout, especially the "wall" in the middle and the centrally located couch/lounge area, with a large distance to the TV. Everyone would have to walk between the couch and the TV to reach the terrace. Also, the shower/WC on the ground floor lacks a window.
Price estimate from architect/planner: Not yet received; the plot, because an additional 33m² (355 sq ft) of shared driveway had to be acquired (making a total of 388m²/4,176 sq ft), cost around 388,000€.
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: 950,000 €
Preferred heating technology: Gas.
If you had to give up, which details/features
-could you give up: attic
-could not give up: basement
Why is the design as it is now?
I think with the limited space there was little room for manoeuvre except on the ground floor, see concerns above.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Basically, any tips or comments are welcome. Especially as described above, we are still not quite happy with the ground floor. Is there anyone who can suggest an alternative layout or space arrangement?
We had considered adding a kind of room divider/wall from the central wall to the western wall, moving the couch area to the southwest corner and thereby shifting the TV to the south wall.
Here are the floor plans:
Overview with carport:
Basement:
Ground floor:
Upper floor:
Attic:
We appreciate any input.
Best regards,
Christoph
after our development plan was finally completed due to an initial error by the city, I would like to present the first draft from our architectural draftsman. The original purchase of the plot was in 11/2019 (at that time actually with a completed development plan). Due to the error, subsequent changes, public re-exhibition, and the Corona pandemic, it has taken until now to start planning.
I have included the recommended question list and tried to answer it to the best of my knowledge. Please feel free to ask if you have any questions. This is my first thread, so please be patient with me.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 355m² (3,820 sq ft)
Slope: No.
Floor area ratio, plot ratio: not known, max. 90m² (970 sq ft) ground floor area, building envelope/boundary 11.5 x 8 m (38 x 26 ft)
Edge development: Semi-detached house, built on one side at the plot boundary.
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full stories
Roof type: Shed roof up to max. 11 degrees or flat roof allowed, planned as shed roof with 11 degrees.
Architectural style: "Modern," meaning white, anthracite, possibly wooden elements on the facade, similar to hundreds of new buildings nowadays.
Orientation: Terrace faces south.
Maximum heights/limits: North wall 6.3 m (21 ft), reference point is the filled ground level but max. 10 cm (4 inches) above the nearest manhole cover. This will be used in case of high groundwater levels.
Other requirements: None that I consider relevant for evaluating the floor plan.
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: as above, shed roof, semi-detached house
Basement, floors: fully basement, 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, 34 and 35 years old, 2 children, 1 and 3 years old.
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor with WC and shower, kitchen, living area, preferably open plan.
Upper floor with 3 bedrooms plus bathroom.
The "attic" is intended mainly as storage, the front part about 17m² (183 sq ft) with a room height over 2 m (6 ft 7 in) possibly for occasional guests or as a playroom, the rear part as crawl space.
In the basement, aside from the technical room and a "cool" storage room (both on the north side), no specific requirements.
Office: none.
Annual guest stays: 7-8
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: Architectural draftsman
What we particularly like: It basically matches our expectations; there are many play options on the upper and attic floors, and basement options in my opinion are limited. In the basement, one could consider combining the two southern rooms into one.
What we don’t like: On the ground floor, we are somewhat unsure about the layout, especially the "wall" in the middle and the centrally located couch/lounge area, with a large distance to the TV. Everyone would have to walk between the couch and the TV to reach the terrace. Also, the shower/WC on the ground floor lacks a window.
Price estimate from architect/planner: Not yet received; the plot, because an additional 33m² (355 sq ft) of shared driveway had to be acquired (making a total of 388m²/4,176 sq ft), cost around 388,000€.
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: 950,000 €
Preferred heating technology: Gas.
If you had to give up, which details/features
-could you give up: attic
-could not give up: basement
Why is the design as it is now?
I think with the limited space there was little room for manoeuvre except on the ground floor, see concerns above.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Basically, any tips or comments are welcome. Especially as described above, we are still not quite happy with the ground floor. Is there anyone who can suggest an alternative layout or space arrangement?
We had considered adding a kind of room divider/wall from the central wall to the western wall, moving the couch area to the southwest corner and thereby shifting the TV to the south wall.
Here are the floor plans:
Overview with carport:
Basement:
Ground floor:
Upper floor:
Attic:
We appreciate any input.
Best regards,
Christoph
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Endlich19852 Aug 2020 11:18Just change the entrance step. Then bikes and the lawnmower don’t have to be carried through the entire house, just through the hallway.
The roof upstairs… um, I just realized: it doesn’t quite fit.
Anyway, what about storage rooms in the living areas on the ground and upper floors? Where do the broom, cleaning supplies, vacuum cleaner go? Exactly, the staircase must "face" north due to the low ceiling height in that direction.
We haven’t really thought much about the storage room yet; depending on the staircase design, there might at least be some space under the stairs.
Many say that. But it’s not a big deal. For the contractor, just a small amount. And even if it’s 500€: for an optimal design, that should be included. People allow themselves a second sink and a second shower after all. If it’s just a few hundred euros, it definitely wouldn’t stop us. For example, moving the kitchen into an L-shape in the southwest corner might allow a small island where the breakfast bar is currently planned. Then also possibly the pillar solution regarding the central wall. I’ll sketch that out—it’s definitely an interesting suggestion, especially since we’ll probably spend more time in the kitchen during the day (southwest orientation) than on the couch. The proximity to the terrace would surely be an advantage as well.
One of the children’s rooms is a bit of a disappointment: the entrance is a bottleneck. The furniture drawn in shows that it would be better to place that shelf somewhere else. I think you mean the children’s room on the north side? One option could be to align and basically mirror the current master bedroom and the northern children’s room by removing the dressing room and moving the partition wall a bit to the south. Especially considering the master bedroom under the roof (see below). Later on, this would also give the children the option of equally sized rooms.
You have more than enough storage space in the basement...
The intended storage space there is hardly worth mentioning since it’s hard to access. We have a similar space under a sloping roof ourselves—it’s awkward to walk in.
I would, also because you lack storage close by, make the master bedroom up there, with sliding doors in the 180 cm (70 inches) area, and then a small adjacent room with clothes at normal height in the front, and low shelves under the slope at the back that can be rolled out. That way, the roof slope is used and you have your privacy. That’s why the crawl space is planned. Whether it will actually be used remains to be seen, but the front part would definitely be usable. Maybe move the door towards the stairs to create a more rectangular room and put the entrance to the likely seldom-used crawl space inside the room by extending the dividing wall straight through.
Upstairs, things ease up a bit: there could be a small room for the PC, files, and vacuum cleaner, about 8 square meters (86 square feet).
Why isn’t there an office planned? Where do the kids print their school papers? Or you? The idea was that the computer and printer would be in one of the basement rooms; we also have a 1.5-meter (5 feet) wide cabinet for our files. I just don’t consider that an office. Initially, we want to sleep on the same floor as the children, especially since our one-year-old sometimes wanders around at night looking for the parents’ bedroom, even in our four-room apartment. But in the long term, see the plans above; the smaller children’s room could be repurposed.
Your own imagination should be enough to add a window there. I think so too; I’ve already told the draftsman and don’t see why a small window facing north couldn’t be installed there.
Basement: the retaining walls shouldn’t be where the terrace is. That wouldn’t look nice and leads to planning issues with height, etc.
I would probably slope the area between the outdoor stairs and the southwest corner of the house and then create a nice, habitable window in the basement there, allowing a living room downstairs. Will the basement be heated? What ceiling height is planned? By "retaining walls," I assume you mean the “window wells” or shafts. Very good point, which we hadn’t noticed before. The sloping solution sounds good, which would at least solve the issue for that one room. The two southern rooms, “Basement 1” and the hobby room, are planned to be heated. Ceiling height is 2.45 meters (8 feet).
Measurements everywhere would be very helpful. It’s a bit like guessing. I have photographed the plans from a bit farther away so that the measurements should hopefully be visible.
Endlich1985 schrieb:
Depending on the design of the staircase, there might be at least a little space underneath. No, under the ground floor stairs there is the cellar stairs.
Therefore, I would allocate more space for storage in the planning.
Also, the dressing room is more of a space waster than a benefit with a width of 180cm (70 inches).
Endlich1985 schrieb:
At first, we will probably want to sleep on the same level as the children, especially since our 1-year-old often gets lost at night while looking for the parents’ bedroom, even in our four-room apartment. I still believe: finish the attic as the parents’ area with a walk-in closet, and maybe use a room on the upper floor as a bedroom for the first three (or 4.5) years because of the children. What is not functionally implemented now usually won’t be done later, and then the added value is lost.
The current dressing room, which has defects, negatively affects the entire upper floor with the “extension.” That’s my opinion.
Endlich1985 schrieb:
What do you mean by being involved in the planning? We met with her beforehand and discussed our ideas, and this is now the design.I meant, who you are and how much decision-making power you have in the matter (I assumed you and the neighbors were buyers in a semi-detached house developer project). But you are the builders, the neighbors as well, and together you are employing a draftsman. That sounds good.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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Endlich19852 Aug 2020 13:3311ant schrieb:
I meant who you are and how much control you have in the matter (my assumption was that you and the neighbors are buyers in a semi-detached house development project). But you are home builders, the neighbors as well, and together you are hiring a draftsman. That sounds good. Yes, that’s exactly the case.
If you plan the dining and kitchen area as suggested at the back of the house, you will have full freedom for the rest of the ground floor.
The niche must be 370 cm long (about 145 inches) to fit six 60 cm (24 inch) cabinets plus two end panels and two layers of plaster. In the plan, the space between the kitchen units and the island is 120 cm (47 inches), and the island measures 270 x 120 cm (106 x 47 inches).
The window and patio door are shown as examples only.
The niche must be 370 cm long (about 145 inches) to fit six 60 cm (24 inch) cabinets plus two end panels and two layers of plaster. In the plan, the space between the kitchen units and the island is 120 cm (47 inches), and the island measures 270 x 120 cm (106 x 47 inches).
The window and patio door are shown as examples only.
evelinoz schrieb:
If you place the dining and cooking areas on the lower level as suggested, you will have complete freedom for the rest of the ground floor.I’m only slowly getting used to the way your (kitchen?) planning software displays things.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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