Hello everyone, we are in the final stages of planning our house and would like to get your opinion on our floor plans. The building permit / planning application has not yet been submitted, so changes are still possible.
Urban villa / hipped roof
Plot size: 615 sqm (6620 sq ft)
Orientation: Entrance facing east, garden area southwest
Number of parking spaces: 2 plus a large garage (6 x 6 m) (20 x 20 ft)
Number of floors: 2 full stories
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: modern
Owners’ requirements:
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, modern
Basement, floors: without
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: everything shown in the floor plan
Office: family use or home office? home office
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen
Number of dining seats: up to 10
Oven / stove: yes
Garage, carport: garage
Energy: air-to-water heat pump and possibly an electricity storage system with solar panels
At the moment, we are considering moving the kitchen to the other side and creating a passage to the utility room. This would change the shape of the bathroom, making it longer and narrower, and allow us to enlarge the utility room so it could also serve as a pantry.
The layout upstairs should remain as it is. We know the bathroom is quite large, but if possible we would like to keep it that way. The window arrangement is not finalized yet. We would appreciate any suggestions.
Urban villa / hipped roof
Plot size: 615 sqm (6620 sq ft)
Orientation: Entrance facing east, garden area southwest
Number of parking spaces: 2 plus a large garage (6 x 6 m) (20 x 20 ft)
Number of floors: 2 full stories
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: modern
Owners’ requirements:
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, modern
Basement, floors: without
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: everything shown in the floor plan
Office: family use or home office? home office
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen
Number of dining seats: up to 10
Oven / stove: yes
Garage, carport: garage
Energy: air-to-water heat pump and possibly an electricity storage system with solar panels
At the moment, we are considering moving the kitchen to the other side and creating a passage to the utility room. This would change the shape of the bathroom, making it longer and narrower, and allow us to enlarge the utility room so it could also serve as a pantry.
The layout upstairs should remain as it is. We know the bathroom is quite large, but if possible we would like to keep it that way. The window arrangement is not finalized yet. We would appreciate any suggestions.
11ant schrieb:
"Boring" is still a very mild way to put it. The absolute priority on symmetry not only results in bulges on surfaces but often destroys any sense of well-balanced proportions. And when you then try to spice up the dull shapes (with "Tuscan"-style frills or similar), the outcome is a house in the end-of-fair style. Essentially a built proof that taste cannot be bought. If you want something aesthetically pleasing, symmetry should not be overdone.Fortunately, tastes differ, and it’s not something to argue about. I have already taken some constructive suggestions from here and passed them on. I also see where improvements could still be made and am very open to that. But telling @11ant that they suffer from a "lack of taste" is not very kind.
Curly schrieb:
Your U-shaped kitchen is very large and will therefore be quite expensive. We just bought our kitchen and visited several kitchen showrooms. We had price differences of 6000 euros for the same kitchen, but ours is not as large as yours.
Best regards,
Sabine @Curly, thanks for that as well. We already have a relatively new kitchen that we will take with us and expand. We paid 5000 € for it, so I’d rather not leave it behind since it’s only 2 years old. I definitely expect to spend another 5000 €, even though we only need a new induction cooktop and extractor hood. All other appliances are already there.
@Curly Our kitchen, complete with all built-in appliances (extra large refrigerator, dishwasher, etc.), cost about €18,000 (around $19,800). The first quote was over €40,000 (about $44,000)! What’s still missing in the picture is the integrated Hohmeier extractor hood above the stove and a solid wood countertop measuring 1.0x0.8 m (3.3x2.6 ft). More to come ;-)
@ypg No, that’s vinyl flooring in slate look! Looks great, right?
@11ant Pictures will follow, I can also post some in a thread.
@DanielaS The bathroom location is good because the plumbing was installed very well. On the ground floor, we have a thick wall between the bathroom and pantry that houses all the water, sewage, electrical lines, as well as ventilation supply and exhaust ducts. Keep in mind: a bathroom above the living room can be tricky if you have an exposed wooden ceiling like we do... you can always hear the wastewater!
@ypg No, that’s vinyl flooring in slate look! Looks great, right?
@11ant Pictures will follow, I can also post some in a thread.
@DanielaS The bathroom location is good because the plumbing was installed very well. On the ground floor, we have a thick wall between the bathroom and pantry that houses all the water, sewage, electrical lines, as well as ventilation supply and exhaust ducts. Keep in mind: a bathroom above the living room can be tricky if you have an exposed wooden ceiling like we do... you can always hear the wastewater!
You should definitely have the width of the walk-in closet changed again!!!
With a raw dimension of 3.01 meters (9 feet 11 inches), a 3-meter (10 feet) wardrobe will not fit afterward. I never understand how this mistake can happen so often.
For a kitchen of this size, you can expect to spend a bit more money.
With a raw dimension of 3.01 meters (9 feet 11 inches), a 3-meter (10 feet) wardrobe will not fit afterward. I never understand how this mistake can happen so often.
For a kitchen of this size, you can expect to spend a bit more money.
DanielaS schrieb:
But telling @11ant that they suffer from "bad taste" is not very kind. I agree, and I didn’t say that. It’s simply that the described symmetry-related enlargement of surfaces results in size dimensions into which a lot of money is poured. In combination with the almost inevitable disproportions of windows and hallways that come along with these “excess surfaces,” the viewer’s perception is that it must have cost a lot, yet beauty was not achieved. Unfortunately, many builders cannot resist overly subdividing these stretched façade surfaces to compensate (with small brickwork or the anthracite-colored “smokey eyes” between and beside the window bands).
blackm88 schrieb:
No, that is vinyl flooring in slate optic! Looks great, doesn’t it? Yes, great.
RobsonMKK schrieb:
At 3.01 meters (9 feet 11 inches) structural dimension, a 3-meter (9 feet 10 inches) wardrobe will not fit afterward. I never understand how this mistake can happen so often. This happens because the half-centimeter level precision derived from the construction reference dimension is confused with tight tolerances. A 301 cm (9 feet 11 inches) structural target dimension can actually be 298 cm (9 feet 9 inches) as built — not counting slight deviations from verticality — and after plastering, it might be just 294 cm (9 feet 7 inches) before subtracting baseboards.
RobsonMKK schrieb:
Understood, but I would think one step further when other furniture is coming that is not sized in inches. Then you really have to be extremely careful: an inch is often roughly converted as 2 or 3 cm (0.8 or 1.2 inches)…
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Since we don’t want to disrupt Daniela’s thread with her house-related question, please share the detailed photos of your beautiful home here 🙂
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/hausbilder-thread.14011/
I actually guessed linoleum myself (based on the small phone picture) 😉
Yes, it looks great 🙂
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/hausbilder-thread.14011/
blackm88 schrieb:
@ypg No, that’s vinyl flooring with a slate look! It looks great, doesn’t it?
I actually guessed linoleum myself (based on the small phone picture) 😉
Yes, it looks great 🙂
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