ᐅ Installation of a Gas Heating System in New Construction 2023/2024

Snowy36 schrieb:

Exactly, with high school exams based on essays from climate extremists…

The younger generation wants to do something for
the environment, and so do I.
But on the other hand, I have also learned how to manage my money. Four-day work week, work-life balance, money for protests… All well and good, but you don’t build houses with that… They just won’t realize it immediately, but maybe in 25 years or even 50, when all prosperity is gone.

So far, I have only been reading quietly because I hoped to find something about gas heating, and I find little value in these kinds of off-topic discussions. The amount of nonsense and pseudo-science spread here surpasses some Facebook articles. I thought this forum was about building topics?

I am curious how old the people are who write and judge like this. Roughly, mid-50s? Older?
I am in my early 40s, as is my wife. We have two children, one in elementary school and one just starting school. So far, I have seen no evidence of left-wing extremist school materials in Baden-Württemberg. And no thanks to a nationalist upbringing if that’s the dream. I’d rather see my children receive education that prepares them for the decades to come, not for a life in the 1970s. Or the 1950s.

And yes, I find the concept of work-life balance very sensible, as we both work—currently 100% and 80%—and we are reaching our limits. I get the impression that only people who don’t have children or live in single-income households oppose work-life balance. And I’m not even talking about money here. A day has only 24 hours, and even with family support, we can’t fit everything the modern day demands. My wife’s employer now wants everyone back to full-time office presence—after all, why was the office building even built? 🙄 My employer only wants to allow home office one day per week. We almost wish to go back to the Corona times, and we will have to cut back on all volunteer work and sports because there is no other option. My wife will probably have to reduce her working hours, and I can already hear the boss complaining.

If this country is going downhill, it’s because of the mentality of “we’ve never done it that way before” and “where would that lead us?” Economically successful countries are not the ones operating like it’s still 1980.

Snowy36 schrieb:

You are not correctly informed.

Final exam in Lower Saxony, subject Politics and Economics.

You wrote that students are taught a methodological way of thinking or how to question independently. And I said this is based on essays by climate extremists.

Maybe your physics students learn to think for themselves, but if they are also taking Politics and Economics, that’s probably no longer the case.

I can only fully speak about my own subjects.

But it is completely normal in Politics, History, Social Sciences, etc., to read texts in which the author expresses a certain viewpoint. This has to be the case. In school, there is the task to “evaluate” or “take a position”: students are supposed to respond to the opinions of others and thereby develop their own stance. Rejection is just as allowed as agreement or indifference. The requirement is that this must be justified.

However, I find it normal and important that, on one hand, you compare speeches by Nazi leaders and, on the other hand, engage with essays by, for example, Rosa Luxemburg. In literature classes, you also read fiction that reflects attitudes which today we no longer share. Some of these books are considered world literature.

So, until you can tell me exactly WHAT should be done with which text in a final exam paper, everything sounds quite normal. Dealing with material meant to be indoctrinating is an educational goal—and rightly so.

Well, Schorsch. It’s all nice and well with the work-life balance, a four-day week, and “pushing your limits.”

The problem is that we don’t live alone on this planet, and neither Americans, Chinese, Indians, nor Brazilians follow this approach. Whether we like it or not, we are in competition with them.

It is normal that in saturated, affluent societies the “hunger” decreases and people start to question why they should work (more) at all. However, in the coming decades, we will experience that we must do more again for less prosperity.

Because others work 60 hours per week while we hesitate at over 30, right in the middle of a skilled labor shortage. That can’t work.

xMisterDx schrieb:

Well, Schorsch. It’s all well and good talking about work-life balance, a four-day workweek, and “reaching your limits.”

The problem is, we don’t live alone on this planet, and neither Americans, Chinese, Indians, nor Brazilians are following that path.
Whether we like it or not, we are in competition with them.

It’s normal that in affluent, saturated societies the “hunger” fades, and people ask themselves why they should work more or at all.
However, in the coming decades, we will experience having to put in more effort for less prosperity again.

Because while others work 60 hours a week, we are debating over 30. Right in the middle of a skilled labor shortage.
That can’t work.

If you want to stay competitive with countries like China, India, Brazil, and the USA, do you also want to adopt their human rights violations and environmental issues? With automation and AI, it won’t be necessary to work 40+ hours like in early industrial times.
And stop whining about the skilled labor shortage. It may be real in trades, but in many industries, employers are driving workers away themselves. For example, my wife’s boss, who runs a pure office operation that worked excellently remote for the last two years, now insists that everyone must be back full-time in the office.

Schorsch_baut schrieb:

With automation and AI, it will no longer be necessary to work 40+ hours a week like in early industrial times.

If(!) this happens in the foreseeable future, we will need a completely new social and tax system, along with closed borders for regions following the same path.

Now Schorsch is making a complete fool of himself. If anyone is developing AI, it's the USA or China, and perhaps Russia as well. But definitely not Germany, where career aspirations are becoming influencer or TikTok star, and over 50% of young people aim for a public sector job, preferably part-time from day one.

And moderate your tone. It may be true that in your dead-end office jobs there’s no shortage, since every second person studies business administration or similar nonsense. And mediocre lawyers could pave the streets.

In the technical field, however, there is a shortage up to the highest levels, especially where people don’t just close their laptops at 4:30 pm (16:30) every day, but sometimes only when the work is finished. Or in field service.