ᐅ Floor Plan 155 sqm in Baden-Württemberg – Tips and Suggestions for Improvement
Created on: 14 Jun 2022 12:53
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Benzeller
Hello everyone, my wife and I are planning to build a house.
We have now received the first draft from the architect and are already quite satisfied.
There will surely always be room for improvement.
We are not entirely happy with the garage/carport solution and hope for some additional ideas here.
Unfortunately, the plan does not include any dimensions yet ("first plans are always without measurements" with this architect).
Zoning plan / restrictions
Plot size: 597 sqm (6420 sq ft)
Slope: gently sloping to the north, max. 1.5 m (5 feet) over 25 m (82 feet) length
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see plan
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 1.5 per residential unit
Number of storeys: 2
Roof type: gable roof between 20° and 30°
Style
Orientation: Priority is east-west orientation
Maximum heights / limits: max. height 9 m (30 feet)
Other requirements: plant a tree
Clients’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: timber frame construction
Basement, number of storeys: 2
Number of occupants, ages: 4-5 (currently 3 / 26 / 26 / 1 month)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: max. 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) total for L-Bank funding
Office: family use or home office? (playroom for children / initially home office with one child)
Overnight guests per year: almost none
Open or closed layout: open area with kitchen, dining and living
Conservative or modern construction
Open kitchen, cooking island: U-shaped kitchen
Number of dining seats: at least 6, preferably 8-10
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: living room unit with TV
Garage, carport: storage room for bicycles etc.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect
What do you particularly like? Why? The exterior view is very successful. The entrance area on the north side with wooden cladding softens the appearance. Large hallway for arriving / stair landing / if needed 3 children’s rooms (on ground floor)
What do you dislike? Why? Swap the shower and washbasin in the ground floor bathroom / we are still unsure about the carport solution / upstairs, a door will be added from the walk-in closet to the bedroom
Estimated price according to architect/planner: €650,000
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: €750,000 including plot
Preferred heating technology: air source heat pump and solar/storage (KFW40+)
If you have to give up something, which details / extensions
- can you do without:
- can you not do without:
Why did the design turn out the way it is now? For example,
Which of your wishes were implemented by the architect?
Our wishes were implemented by the architect.
Kitchen, living, dining in L-shape / possibility for 3 children
What do you consider particularly good or bad about it?
Lots of storage space even without a basement
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
What would still bother you about the floor plan?
Is there any wasted space?
Are there any cost drivers that could be avoided?
Thank you very much in advance!
We have now received the first draft from the architect and are already quite satisfied.
There will surely always be room for improvement.
We are not entirely happy with the garage/carport solution and hope for some additional ideas here.
Unfortunately, the plan does not include any dimensions yet ("first plans are always without measurements" with this architect).
Zoning plan / restrictions
Plot size: 597 sqm (6420 sq ft)
Slope: gently sloping to the north, max. 1.5 m (5 feet) over 25 m (82 feet) length
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see plan
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 1.5 per residential unit
Number of storeys: 2
Roof type: gable roof between 20° and 30°
Style
Orientation: Priority is east-west orientation
Maximum heights / limits: max. height 9 m (30 feet)
Other requirements: plant a tree
Clients’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: timber frame construction
Basement, number of storeys: 2
Number of occupants, ages: 4-5 (currently 3 / 26 / 26 / 1 month)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: max. 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) total for L-Bank funding
Office: family use or home office? (playroom for children / initially home office with one child)
Overnight guests per year: almost none
Open or closed layout: open area with kitchen, dining and living
Conservative or modern construction
Open kitchen, cooking island: U-shaped kitchen
Number of dining seats: at least 6, preferably 8-10
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: living room unit with TV
Garage, carport: storage room for bicycles etc.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect
What do you particularly like? Why? The exterior view is very successful. The entrance area on the north side with wooden cladding softens the appearance. Large hallway for arriving / stair landing / if needed 3 children’s rooms (on ground floor)
What do you dislike? Why? Swap the shower and washbasin in the ground floor bathroom / we are still unsure about the carport solution / upstairs, a door will be added from the walk-in closet to the bedroom
Estimated price according to architect/planner: €650,000
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: €750,000 including plot
Preferred heating technology: air source heat pump and solar/storage (KFW40+)
If you have to give up something, which details / extensions
- can you do without:
- can you not do without:
Why did the design turn out the way it is now? For example,
Which of your wishes were implemented by the architect?
Our wishes were implemented by the architect.
Kitchen, living, dining in L-shape / possibility for 3 children
What do you consider particularly good or bad about it?
Lots of storage space even without a basement
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
What would still bother you about the floor plan?
Is there any wasted space?
Are there any cost drivers that could be avoided?
Thank you very much in advance!
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Benzeller22 Jun 2022 12:55Thank you very much in advance for the suggestions and improvements.
Regarding the garage, we ourselves are still not exactly sure what we want. For the next plan revision, we have now added a garage next to the storage room, as well as a carport that is supposed to stand on three columns without a rear wall. Under the roof, there will be a stage. I would like the staircase to be a landing staircase (as it was in my parents’ house).
Walk-in closet: We have currently measured our wardrobes and only have about 3.5 m (11.5 ft) of wardrobe space where we store everything we wear, so the door should still work here. The facade is important to my wife; she wants everything to be symmetrical.
The wooden paneling is estimated by the architect to cost about 20,000 € (approximately 22,000 USD).
Regarding the garage, we ourselves are still not exactly sure what we want. For the next plan revision, we have now added a garage next to the storage room, as well as a carport that is supposed to stand on three columns without a rear wall. Under the roof, there will be a stage. I would like the staircase to be a landing staircase (as it was in my parents’ house).
ypg schrieb:
- A large house, but no possibility or option to place a side-by-side refrigerator, I also don’t find that ideal
- The door between the walk-in closet and the bedroom ruins the walk-in closet layout.
- Too little storage space
- Very challenging facade for me (with the apparent beams, too much uniformity, no variation at all)
I will take a closer look at it this evening… right now I can’t even see the square meters due to lack of resolution.
Walk-in closet: We have currently measured our wardrobes and only have about 3.5 m (11.5 ft) of wardrobe space where we store everything we wear, so the door should still work here. The facade is important to my wife; she wants everything to be symmetrical.
K a t j a schrieb:
Aside from that, the many wooden panelings are quite nice—depending on your taste, but I would like to know how much they are supposed to cost. Have you asked yet? If they are removed for cost reasons, the look will only be half as attractive.
The wooden paneling is estimated by the architect to cost about 20,000 € (approximately 22,000 USD).
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allstar8322 Jun 2022 14:54I think it’s pretty good. Friends of mine have a similar floor plan. Here are a few points you might want to consider:
Kitchen sink and door:
Currently, you have to go around the corner to reach the cabinets on the terrace side. If you choose a two-part kitchen instead of a U-shaped one, you won’t have corners and will have easy access to everything. Also, you could add a door from the kitchen to the terrace. I think that’s great—we have it ourselves. It’s also very useful for ventilation.
Window / light axis:
If desired, adding a window facing the terrace could create a line of light through the hallway towards the living room.
Terrace door for the shed:
Why doesn’t the door of the shed open out towards the terrace?
Front entrance door:
Why is the door hinged the way it is? Would it make more sense if it opened the other way?
Shed door:
The door might be quite narrow for bike access. We have a sliding door, but that might be difficult to implement in your case.
Kitchen pantry door:
With the hidden door in the kitchen, you lose some storage space. Having access through a door in the hallway might also be an option.
Kitchen sink and door:
Currently, you have to go around the corner to reach the cabinets on the terrace side. If you choose a two-part kitchen instead of a U-shaped one, you won’t have corners and will have easy access to everything. Also, you could add a door from the kitchen to the terrace. I think that’s great—we have it ourselves. It’s also very useful for ventilation.
Window / light axis:
If desired, adding a window facing the terrace could create a line of light through the hallway towards the living room.
Terrace door for the shed:
Why doesn’t the door of the shed open out towards the terrace?
Front entrance door:
Why is the door hinged the way it is? Would it make more sense if it opened the other way?
Shed door:
The door might be quite narrow for bike access. We have a sliding door, but that might be difficult to implement in your case.
Kitchen pantry door:
With the hidden door in the kitchen, you lose some storage space. Having access through a door in the hallway might also be an option.
Overall, a nice first draft. The architect clearly put some thought into the plot.
I would address the previously noted comment about the long corridor to the living area as suggested in the sketch to make it less of an issue.
For the living room, perhaps consider adding a (glass) sliding door. It might also be possible to shorten the cloakroom area slightly and design the wall so that the first two steps of the staircase turn around the corner. This would make the space feel more open.
In the living room, I would (!) also change the sofa orientation. In my sketch, you can see both the TV and the garden/terrace from the sofa. Depending on the desired TV size, the small south-facing window might need to be moved or combined with the window in the dining area.
I would address the previously noted comment about the long corridor to the living area as suggested in the sketch to make it less of an issue.
For the living room, perhaps consider adding a (glass) sliding door. It might also be possible to shorten the cloakroom area slightly and design the wall so that the first two steps of the staircase turn around the corner. This would make the space feel more open.
In the living room, I would (!) also change the sofa orientation. In my sketch, you can see both the TV and the garden/terrace from the sofa. Depending on the desired TV size, the small south-facing window might need to be moved or combined with the window in the dining area.
RomeoZwo schrieb:
Overall a nice first draft. The architect has clearly put some thought into the plot.
I would soften the already mentioned issue of the long corridor leading to the living area, as shown in the sketch.
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For the living room, maybe consider a (glass) sliding door. Perhaps you could also shorten the wardrobe area a bit and design the wall so that the first two steps of the staircase turn around the corner. This would open up that space.
In the living room, I would recommend changing the orientation of the sofa. In my sketch, the sofa faces both the TV and the garden/terrace. Depending on the desired TV size, the small south-facing window might need to be moved or combined with the window in the dining area. Shortening the wall won’t fix the issue. A partial reset is needed (see ypg).
driver55 schrieb:
Shortening the wall won’t improve that. A complete partial reset is needed (see ypg)Exactly: Parcel number and no more nice living room.Similar topics