ᐅ Is it possible to design an open-plan kitchen with special custom features in only 29 square meters?
Created on: 20 Dec 2020 18:58
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knalltüte
Hello,
I would like to reconsider my current plans for the open-plan kitchen, bathroom, and bedroom, and use the collective intelligence of this forum for inspiration.
Over the past few months/during the construction, my priorities have shifted slightly (preferably furnishing with higher-quality items right away, not taking existing furniture with me), so I now require professional help especially with the kitchen/dining corner layout (this was planned from the start). On-site appointments at kitchen studios will likely follow as soon as possible. But perhaps I can already find suitable ideas here.
My desired kitchen features (designed for myself, maximum for two people):
Sink + dishwasher (preferably the dishwasher installed at “mid-height”). The sink location is roughly fixed due to the existing wastewater pipe options.
An oven with pyrolytic self-cleaning, nothing special otherwise. The oven can be installed “low” (as there is probably only one built-in spot at “mid-height”). I don’t need a microwave (not even one integrated into the oven).
The cooktop can be induction, possibly with a downdraft vent (preferably from Berbel, as I like their cleaning and technology best). It should not be too wide; do models around 60cm (24 inches) wide exist?
Alternatively, I am considering a two-burner gas cooktop combined with a teppanyaki grill. I would even prefer if this combination could be paired with a recirculation hood or downdraft vent—is that possible? The gas supply would come from a bottled source in the technical room.
My wishes for the cooktop include front-facing knobs (instead of touch control), and easy cleaning (with gas, probably only “Pitt Cooking” works).
I want a refrigerator with one or two freezer drawers or an integrated small freezer compartment. I would prefer the fridge and dishwasher to be integrated into a wall-mounted cabinet.
I need about 60-80cm (24–31 inches) of free countertop space for food preparation, plus about 40cm (16 inches) for appliances (only a small portafilter espresso machine + grinder). All other appliances should be stored in cabinets or drawers. The kitchen overall should not take up too much space and should appear clean, elegant, and floating. (I really like the design of many Bulthaup B3 wall-mounted kitchens.)
Directly adjacent to the kitchen, I want a comfortable counter/dining area mostly for myself, but it should fit up to four people (even if that is a bit tight), preferably with a view towards the terrace/pool/south-facing windows.
It would be nice to have the option to expand the dining area significantly for larger groups when “social gatherings” become possible again.
I am aware that the actual living area (entire apartment excluding the terrace) is only 59m² (635 square feet). Are my wishes even remotely feasible?
I certainly don’t expect space for gatherings with 20 people. My idea would be to compress the living area and add another table to the existing dining corner to significantly enlarge it.
What doesn’t exist in suitable space-saving dining furniture can of course be custom-built ;-)
I am very open to “wow effect” suggestions. I just don’t have the creative knack for this myself.
There is no fixed budget planned for this. Everything so far has always changed spontaneously, so why not here?
Since this is an open-plan kitchen, here is my (unfinalized) wish list for the TV/living area as well.
A comfortable but small corner sofa for 1–2 people. It should also serve as a possible sleeping space.
A small coffee table (height-adjustable) with multiple functions (dining, mini workspace).
Possibly a small side table of about 35cm (14 inches) diameter.
The TV will be integrated into the wall (I left a suitably sized recess for this). Therefore, I don’t need a lowboard or similar. All equipment including cables (except for the TV) will be hidden.
If there is still some space on the sofa side (unlikely), I could imagine a small (mini) wall-mounted sideboard. I like the design of the Interlübke Cube models.
Comments like “that’s something you do before floorplanning and construction” are a bit late by now :p
I would like to reconsider my current plans for the open-plan kitchen, bathroom, and bedroom, and use the collective intelligence of this forum for inspiration.
Over the past few months/during the construction, my priorities have shifted slightly (preferably furnishing with higher-quality items right away, not taking existing furniture with me), so I now require professional help especially with the kitchen/dining corner layout (this was planned from the start). On-site appointments at kitchen studios will likely follow as soon as possible. But perhaps I can already find suitable ideas here.
My desired kitchen features (designed for myself, maximum for two people):
Sink + dishwasher (preferably the dishwasher installed at “mid-height”). The sink location is roughly fixed due to the existing wastewater pipe options.
An oven with pyrolytic self-cleaning, nothing special otherwise. The oven can be installed “low” (as there is probably only one built-in spot at “mid-height”). I don’t need a microwave (not even one integrated into the oven).
The cooktop can be induction, possibly with a downdraft vent (preferably from Berbel, as I like their cleaning and technology best). It should not be too wide; do models around 60cm (24 inches) wide exist?
Alternatively, I am considering a two-burner gas cooktop combined with a teppanyaki grill. I would even prefer if this combination could be paired with a recirculation hood or downdraft vent—is that possible? The gas supply would come from a bottled source in the technical room.
My wishes for the cooktop include front-facing knobs (instead of touch control), and easy cleaning (with gas, probably only “Pitt Cooking” works).
I want a refrigerator with one or two freezer drawers or an integrated small freezer compartment. I would prefer the fridge and dishwasher to be integrated into a wall-mounted cabinet.
I need about 60-80cm (24–31 inches) of free countertop space for food preparation, plus about 40cm (16 inches) for appliances (only a small portafilter espresso machine + grinder). All other appliances should be stored in cabinets or drawers. The kitchen overall should not take up too much space and should appear clean, elegant, and floating. (I really like the design of many Bulthaup B3 wall-mounted kitchens.)
Directly adjacent to the kitchen, I want a comfortable counter/dining area mostly for myself, but it should fit up to four people (even if that is a bit tight), preferably with a view towards the terrace/pool/south-facing windows.
It would be nice to have the option to expand the dining area significantly for larger groups when “social gatherings” become possible again.
I am aware that the actual living area (entire apartment excluding the terrace) is only 59m² (635 square feet). Are my wishes even remotely feasible?
I certainly don’t expect space for gatherings with 20 people. My idea would be to compress the living area and add another table to the existing dining corner to significantly enlarge it.
What doesn’t exist in suitable space-saving dining furniture can of course be custom-built ;-)
I am very open to “wow effect” suggestions. I just don’t have the creative knack for this myself.
There is no fixed budget planned for this. Everything so far has always changed spontaneously, so why not here?
Since this is an open-plan kitchen, here is my (unfinalized) wish list for the TV/living area as well.
A comfortable but small corner sofa for 1–2 people. It should also serve as a possible sleeping space.
A small coffee table (height-adjustable) with multiple functions (dining, mini workspace).
Possibly a small side table of about 35cm (14 inches) diameter.
The TV will be integrated into the wall (I left a suitably sized recess for this). Therefore, I don’t need a lowboard or similar. All equipment including cables (except for the TV) will be hidden.
If there is still some space on the sofa side (unlikely), I could imagine a small (mini) wall-mounted sideboard. I like the design of the Interlübke Cube models.
Comments like “that’s something you do before floorplanning and construction” are a bit late by now :p
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MM1506zzzz22 Dec 2020 13:18superzapp schrieb:
The cooktop can be induction, possibly with an integrated downdraft extractor (preferably from Berbel, as I find their cleaning and technology the best). But it should not be too wide—are there models available with only about 60cm (24 inches) width?
Alternatively, I’m also considering a two-burner gas cooktop combined with a teppanyaki grill. I would actually prefer if this combination could be used together with a recirculation hood or downdraft extractor. Is that possible?
Bora offers all of this in their Professional product line, where gas, (surface) induction, teppan, etc. can be combined freely. All come with front knob controls.
Controlled mechanical ventilation and extraction ventilation are not necessarily mutually exclusive. The prerequisite is that supply and exhaust air in the kitchen are properly planned...
So, @superzapp
I didn’t do much during the holiday hours, but I don’t want to withhold the screenshots from you.
As an introduction, I will take up some keywords from the first post again:
You can do everything with the selection of your preferred appliances. Whether ovens with integrated extractors and front knobs exist, I don’t know.
For that, you will need cabinets...
Wow effects are very individual. They should be used sparingly, and in a small space they might not work at all. Your space isn’t particularly large, and if you want to highlight something, you need room. For example, your mentioned “wall-mounted oven” needs a wall where it can be seen. If there is a wall, it shouldn’t have to serve as a walking path. Unfortunately, that’s not the case here – you’d rather bump your head (I’m also thinking of the children you mentioned), but I left it in; it can also be removed from the plan 🙂
In a small space, I would create wow effects through color and materials. After all, functionality is important.
...in my opinion, a clean design requires “space.” You only have limited space.
In my opinion, you don’t have enough space for that.
That depends on the viewer 😉
Here is a practical plan with a kitchen designer. It should be mentioned that the software is quite limited. The floor plan crashed on me... also, a free layout wasn’t always possible. A small dining table would fit into the space here.
...and here is a kitchen island, with the entire room created in homebyme. I’ll leave the project open for a few days in case you want to try something else. The oven could also go under the cooktop... I didn’t design a breakfast bar because people usually don’t like sitting on bar stools, and it’s less flexible for multiple persons. The table could be made extendable or foldable.
I would create wow effects more with a colored glass wall and/or a glass countertop, or a golden/shiny tile backsplash or splash guard design.
I just noticed: I forgot the wall cabinets on the end wall 😱 ... never mind ...
I didn’t do much during the holiday hours, but I don’t want to withhold the screenshots from you.
As an introduction, I will take up some keywords from the first post again:
superzapp schrieb:
The cooktop can be induction, possibly with an integrated downdraft extractor
superzapp schrieb:
2-burner gas cooktop combined with a teppanyaki grill
superzapp schrieb:
Knobs at the front (instead of touch controls)
You can do everything with the selection of your preferred appliances. Whether ovens with integrated extractors and front knobs exist, I don’t know.
superzapp schrieb:
All other “machines” should be inside cabinets or drawers.
For that, you will need cabinets...
superzapp schrieb:
Against “wow effect” suggestions
Wow effects are very individual. They should be used sparingly, and in a small space they might not work at all. Your space isn’t particularly large, and if you want to highlight something, you need room. For example, your mentioned “wall-mounted oven” needs a wall where it can be seen. If there is a wall, it shouldn’t have to serve as a walking path. Unfortunately, that’s not the case here – you’d rather bump your head (I’m also thinking of the children you mentioned), but I left it in; it can also be removed from the plan 🙂
In a small space, I would create wow effects through color and materials. After all, functionality is important.
superzapp schrieb:
clean / elegant / floating
...in my opinion, a clean design requires “space.” You only have limited space.
superzapp schrieb:
Preferably integrate the refrigerator like the dishwasher in a wall-mounted unit.
In my opinion, you don’t have enough space for that.
superzapp schrieb:
Are my wishes at all feasible even approximately?
That depends on the viewer 😉
Here is a practical plan with a kitchen designer. It should be mentioned that the software is quite limited. The floor plan crashed on me... also, a free layout wasn’t always possible. A small dining table would fit into the space here.
...and here is a kitchen island, with the entire room created in homebyme. I’ll leave the project open for a few days in case you want to try something else. The oven could also go under the cooktop... I didn’t design a breakfast bar because people usually don’t like sitting on bar stools, and it’s less flexible for multiple persons. The table could be made extendable or foldable.
I would create wow effects more with a colored glass wall and/or a glass countertop, or a golden/shiny tile backsplash or splash guard design.
I just noticed: I forgot the wall cabinets on the end wall 😱 ... never mind ...
K
knalltüte26 Dec 2020 17:36@ypg Thank you!
I didn’t expect the kitchen island to fit. The first solution is very close to my original (practical) idea. I had only planned the tall cabinets on the left to be even taller so that I wouldn’t need upper cabinets, which I don’t really like.
As you said, the oven on the utility room wall seems “lost.” That alone as a design element really doesn’t make sense. I already like the rest very much. That way, I could integrate the oven into the island, and it should still allow space for a downdraft extractor. I recently took a closer look at the induction cooktop with downdraft extractor from Berbel at my daughter’s place, and that should work. Ventilation is definitely necessary; otherwise, despite the controlled ventilation system, the living room will still smell for too long.
I also like the seating position at the table connected to the island.
Working at the sink also allows a view to the south, just like at the cooktop. Really well executed. The “wow effect” with limited space is hardly possible with the wish list, but perhaps with the right materials and colors.
I need to think about that some more.
- No upper cabinets: okay (storage space should still be sufficient…)
- Island: okay
- Seating area: okay (table plus attached parts would probably be custom carpentry)
- I would prefer the refrigerator here; its size is sufficient (we have it in the office). But the door would need to be hinged more to the left for better convenience.
You planned a wall next to the utility room, with a somewhat lost table behind it. What is that intended for?
I didn’t expect the kitchen island to fit. The first solution is very close to my original (practical) idea. I had only planned the tall cabinets on the left to be even taller so that I wouldn’t need upper cabinets, which I don’t really like.
As you said, the oven on the utility room wall seems “lost.” That alone as a design element really doesn’t make sense. I already like the rest very much. That way, I could integrate the oven into the island, and it should still allow space for a downdraft extractor. I recently took a closer look at the induction cooktop with downdraft extractor from Berbel at my daughter’s place, and that should work. Ventilation is definitely necessary; otherwise, despite the controlled ventilation system, the living room will still smell for too long.
I also like the seating position at the table connected to the island.
Working at the sink also allows a view to the south, just like at the cooktop. Really well executed. The “wow effect” with limited space is hardly possible with the wish list, but perhaps with the right materials and colors.
I need to think about that some more.
- No upper cabinets: okay (storage space should still be sufficient…)
- Island: okay
- Seating area: okay (table plus attached parts would probably be custom carpentry)
- I would prefer the refrigerator here; its size is sufficient (we have it in the office). But the door would need to be hinged more to the left for better convenience.
You planned a wall next to the utility room, with a somewhat lost table behind it. What is that intended for?
K
knalltüte26 Dec 2020 17:44I just noticed that the red refrigerator doesn’t really fit the design. It will have to be replaced with a different one.
superzapp schrieb:
The rest already looks very good to me.Oh, that’s great. So the planning has pointed you in the right direction 🙂superzapp schrieb:
No upper cabinets: fits (storage should still be sufficient though...) uh, okay... well then you can reserve a corner in the pantry for canned goods. Where do you want to store glasses and cups? You’re not exactly getting any younger... 😉superzapp schrieb:
Seating area: fits (table + extensions would probably be carpentry work)Well, there are fold-down tables available on the market... I’d also ask the kitchen studio, they could offer you a concept for that.superzapp schrieb:
I’d rather use this fridge, its size is sufficient (we have it in the office). But the door should open to the left for more convenience.I have that model in my program as well, which color would you prefer?superzapp schrieb:
You have a wall planned next to the utility room, with a table somewhat isolated behind it. What is that intended for?Oops... I had to add that wall in the Nolte planner so the tall cabinets could attach there (I had an earlier version with tall cabinets where that wall is... then I probably just transferred it to the other software and forgot to delete it... the table was a test instead of the round one and put there temporarily 😀 ... I must have already had a glass of sparkling wine for the celebration then... 😎superzapp schrieb:
I just noticed that the red fridge does not fit the design at all. That one has to be replaced.Okay, here’s a suggestion:I’ll delete the wall and the flying oven, and replace the fridge.
You can also pick a color for the cabinets and the wall(s).
Or what type of fridge do you want?
And since I have a wow factor in my own kitchen (not planned, but guests always love it), I’ll add that separately. But not until tomorrow 🙂
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