ᐅ Consultation for Smart Home New Construction Wireless Systems

Created on: 7 Dec 2019 19:53
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Smarti99
Hello everyone,

I am currently planning the components for my smart home in a new build.

  • The electrical installation will be done conventionally.
  • Roller shutters controlled only via smart home, without physical switches. Seasonally controlled (Sonoff relays).
  • I also want to control underfloor heating circuits solely via smart home. For this, I would need temperature and humidity sensors in the rooms. Which ones would you recommend? Which relays could I use for the valves? They are just on or off. I would probably need about 8 to 10 units.
  • I want to override light switches in the rooms using Shelly devices.
  • There will be touchscreens on two floors displaying all information and control options.
  • Additionally, Android apps on every phone for home control.
  • In the living room, a configurable button with a display? What would be suitable here?
  • Alarm system with motion sensors and possibly door contacts.
  • Control via OpenHAB.
  • Which sensor can I use to control any actuator with a simple wall switch?
Do you have any ideas or suggestions? Everything should be relatively affordable to implement, and I’m happy to put in programming effort myself.

Thanks in advance
Mycraft23 Nov 2020 13:17
And what makes you wrongly assume that the door would behave like that?

It reports exactly the state it is in, and if it is merely ajar, it will report that accordingly.

For better understanding, these four states would be possible:

00 - open
01 - tilted (ajar)
10 - closed
11 - ajar
Tarnari23 Nov 2020 13:23
However, I’m not sure how this could be implemented with a traditional sliding door. Do you have any ideas? Where could I place a second contact there?
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T_im_Norden
23 Nov 2020 13:50
And where would you place the sensors to detect whether the handle is turned to lock the door or if the door is simply closed and latched but the handle has not been turned?

I'm really starting to get annoyed that you always avoid giving concrete answers here and only make vague hints.
Mycraft23 Nov 2020 13:51
A sliding door is a different matter... my example applies to standard doors. However, with lift-and-slide doors, states such as open, closed, and locked can also be distinguished using the same or a similar principle... all with simple means.

However, to keep costs and effort low, it must be considered in advance which functions are desired.
Tarnari23 Nov 2020 14:38
Ok, then that was a misunderstanding. Our window specialist installed two contacts on all windows to cover exactly these conditions, but said that he can only install one on the sliding door. So, we only have two states there as well. But as I said, we will simply not close the door when someone is outside.
Mycraft23 Nov 2020 15:09
T_im_Norden schrieb:

And where do you place the sensors to detect whether the handle is turned to lock the door or if the door is just closed and latched but the handle hasn’t been turned?

Where you typically install door and window contacts—on or within the door/window frame. The well-known Roto MVS have proven quite useful for this, for example like this:


Close-up of a wooden door with metal lock guide, bolt, and frame fittings.


T_im_Norden schrieb:

Honestly, it’s starting to annoy me that you always avoid giving concrete answers here and only make vague hints.

I didn’t expect that someone apparently familiar with heat pump controls would find a simple door-window handle position detection challenging. As I said, it’s a basic task suited for apprentices just getting started.


@Tarnari
Possibly. Who knows what your window manufacturer is familiar with or has encountered before. In principle, you can apply the same approach to sliding doors. You just have to experiment a bit with the contacts and installation situation.