ᐅ Single-family house, 175 sqm without a basement—too large?
Created on: 15 Apr 2020 10:02
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Drasleona
Hello everyone
I would also like to hear your opinion on our current design.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 507 sqm (5455 sq ft)
Slope: yes, about 4 m (13 ft) difference in height over a length of 30 m (98 ft)
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Site occupancy index: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge building: allowed for garage/carport
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: max. 2 full stories
Roof type: anything except flat roof
Style: any
Orientation: any
Maximum heights/limits: ridge height max. 12 m (39 ft), wall height max. 10 m (33 ft)
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, almost 2 full stories (knee wall 1.86 m (6 ft))
Number of occupants, age: 3 people, 1 teenager, 2 adults
Space requirements ground floor / upper floor: approx. 175 sqm (1880 sq ft)
Office: home office
Guest bedrooms per year: rarely 2 guests
Open or closed architecture: rather open, airy, including open kitchen
Balcony, roof terrace: no to both
Garage, carport: double carport planned later
House Design
Who designed it: put together myself
What do you like most? Why?
- Direct access from the bedroom through the dressing room to the bathroom
- Cloakroom niche keeps dirty shoes outside the main passage area
- Floor-to-ceiling windows for lots of light
- Straight staircase, looks modern, easier to walk on than a spiral one and better for accessibility later (stairlift)
- Very spacious living/dining/kitchen area (though perhaps too large?)
- Pantry with everything easily accessible on open shelves
What do you dislike? Why?
- Huge waste of space in the hallways
Why did the design turn out this way?
I saw a similar layout in a townhouse that I really liked at first glance. We want a generous living feel with large window areas.
Since we are planning without a basement, an extra room upstairs was created for storage, guest room, and workshop space.
Important: the bathroom layout is not really planned yet. I have inserted my first idea there but I know it is still far from a “good idea.” For now, the focus is on the basic room layout. The windows are currently more of an idea than fully thought through.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
- Do you see a way to reduce hallway space despite having a straight staircase?
- What is your overall impression of the design?



I would also like to hear your opinion on our current design.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 507 sqm (5455 sq ft)
Slope: yes, about 4 m (13 ft) difference in height over a length of 30 m (98 ft)
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Site occupancy index: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge building: allowed for garage/carport
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: max. 2 full stories
Roof type: anything except flat roof
Style: any
Orientation: any
Maximum heights/limits: ridge height max. 12 m (39 ft), wall height max. 10 m (33 ft)
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, almost 2 full stories (knee wall 1.86 m (6 ft))
Number of occupants, age: 3 people, 1 teenager, 2 adults
Space requirements ground floor / upper floor: approx. 175 sqm (1880 sq ft)
Office: home office
Guest bedrooms per year: rarely 2 guests
Open or closed architecture: rather open, airy, including open kitchen
Balcony, roof terrace: no to both
Garage, carport: double carport planned later
House Design
Who designed it: put together myself
What do you like most? Why?
- Direct access from the bedroom through the dressing room to the bathroom
- Cloakroom niche keeps dirty shoes outside the main passage area
- Floor-to-ceiling windows for lots of light
- Straight staircase, looks modern, easier to walk on than a spiral one and better for accessibility later (stairlift)
- Very spacious living/dining/kitchen area (though perhaps too large?)
- Pantry with everything easily accessible on open shelves
What do you dislike? Why?
- Huge waste of space in the hallways
Why did the design turn out this way?
I saw a similar layout in a townhouse that I really liked at first glance. We want a generous living feel with large window areas.
Since we are planning without a basement, an extra room upstairs was created for storage, guest room, and workshop space.
Important: the bathroom layout is not really planned yet. I have inserted my first idea there but I know it is still far from a “good idea.” For now, the focus is on the basic room layout. The windows are currently more of an idea than fully thought through.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
- Do you see a way to reduce hallway space despite having a straight staircase?
- What is your overall impression of the design?
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Drasleona7 May 2020 17:06I always appreciate a compliment from you @11ant. Just today or yesterday, I read one of your replies in another thread where you said that a straight staircase in houses under 12m (39 feet) is basically impossible to work well. So I take that as a bit of a pat on the back that you didn’t criticize mine.
Regarding a separate toilet: I’m still doing some research on that, but I don’t currently see it being practical. Sliding doors are not airtight, and having another regular door in the bathroom feels like too much to me. There are already two doors, so I don’t want to add a third. Besides, all the doors reduce the space, which I also want to avoid.
Regarding a separate toilet: I’m still doing some research on that, but I don’t currently see it being practical. Sliding doors are not airtight, and having another regular door in the bathroom feels like too much to me. There are already two doors, so I don’t want to add a third. Besides, all the doors reduce the space, which I also want to avoid.
Drasleona schrieb:
that a straight staircase in houses under 12m (39 feet) just never ever works (almost never...). So I interpret this as a kind of pat on the back that you didn’t criticize it in my case.Don’t get upset, I actually believed it, see post #70https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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Drasleona7 May 2020 20:01Attention, new attempt
Thoughts on this:
- The washing machine will be enclosed near the upper door, either with a sliding curtain or wooden paneling, something along those lines.
- The door to the restroom would normally stay open and only be closed when "specifically needed." Therefore, in my opinion, additional ventilation is not necessary.
What are your opinions on this?

Thoughts on this:
- The washing machine will be enclosed near the upper door, either with a sliding curtain or wooden paneling, something along those lines.
- The door to the restroom would normally stay open and only be closed when "specifically needed." Therefore, in my opinion, additional ventilation is not necessary.
What are your opinions on this?
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Drasleona7 May 2020 20:10@kaho674 So far, all interior walls are planned to be 12.5cm (5 inches) thick. However, one wall will likely be thicker because it is load-bearing. The construction specification states 12.5cm (5 inches) thickness for interior walls in general.
The staircase is currently planned to be 4.10 x 1.00m (13 feet 5 inches x 3 feet 3 inches). Do you think that’s too small? I don’t yet know the exact opening size the staircase actually needs... Right now, the entire footprint of the staircase is allocated as an opening on the upper floor, but it will probably be less than that.
@Tolentino Yes, we have considered that as well... But I think, first, it’s not very practical and, second, you would need ventilation there. Consequently, that would block potential window space for the bathroom...
P.S.: I adjusted the staircase based on haydee’s advice at the time, but I don’t think I ever uploaded the revised plan... So, the staircase in post #1 is still planned too small, sorry.
The staircase is currently planned to be 4.10 x 1.00m (13 feet 5 inches x 3 feet 3 inches). Do you think that’s too small? I don’t yet know the exact opening size the staircase actually needs... Right now, the entire footprint of the staircase is allocated as an opening on the upper floor, but it will probably be less than that.
@Tolentino Yes, we have considered that as well... But I think, first, it’s not very practical and, second, you would need ventilation there. Consequently, that would block potential window space for the bathroom...
P.S.: I adjusted the staircase based on haydee’s advice at the time, but I don’t think I ever uploaded the revised plan... So, the staircase in post #1 is still planned too small, sorry.
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