ᐅ Single-family house, 175 sqm without a basement—too large?
Created on: 15 Apr 2020 10:02
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Drasleona
Hello everyone
I would also like to hear your opinion on our current design.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 507 sqm (5455 sq ft)
Slope: yes, about 4 m (13 ft) difference in height over a length of 30 m (98 ft)
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Site occupancy index: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge building: allowed for garage/carport
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: max. 2 full stories
Roof type: anything except flat roof
Style: any
Orientation: any
Maximum heights/limits: ridge height max. 12 m (39 ft), wall height max. 10 m (33 ft)
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, almost 2 full stories (knee wall 1.86 m (6 ft))
Number of occupants, age: 3 people, 1 teenager, 2 adults
Space requirements ground floor / upper floor: approx. 175 sqm (1880 sq ft)
Office: home office
Guest bedrooms per year: rarely 2 guests
Open or closed architecture: rather open, airy, including open kitchen
Balcony, roof terrace: no to both
Garage, carport: double carport planned later
House Design
Who designed it: put together myself
What do you like most? Why?
- Direct access from the bedroom through the dressing room to the bathroom
- Cloakroom niche keeps dirty shoes outside the main passage area
- Floor-to-ceiling windows for lots of light
- Straight staircase, looks modern, easier to walk on than a spiral one and better for accessibility later (stairlift)
- Very spacious living/dining/kitchen area (though perhaps too large?)
- Pantry with everything easily accessible on open shelves
What do you dislike? Why?
- Huge waste of space in the hallways
Why did the design turn out this way?
I saw a similar layout in a townhouse that I really liked at first glance. We want a generous living feel with large window areas.
Since we are planning without a basement, an extra room upstairs was created for storage, guest room, and workshop space.
Important: the bathroom layout is not really planned yet. I have inserted my first idea there but I know it is still far from a “good idea.” For now, the focus is on the basic room layout. The windows are currently more of an idea than fully thought through.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
- Do you see a way to reduce hallway space despite having a straight staircase?
- What is your overall impression of the design?
I would also like to hear your opinion on our current design.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 507 sqm (5455 sq ft)
Slope: yes, about 4 m (13 ft) difference in height over a length of 30 m (98 ft)
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Site occupancy index: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge building: allowed for garage/carport
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: max. 2 full stories
Roof type: anything except flat roof
Style: any
Orientation: any
Maximum heights/limits: ridge height max. 12 m (39 ft), wall height max. 10 m (33 ft)
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, almost 2 full stories (knee wall 1.86 m (6 ft))
Number of occupants, age: 3 people, 1 teenager, 2 adults
Space requirements ground floor / upper floor: approx. 175 sqm (1880 sq ft)
Office: home office
Guest bedrooms per year: rarely 2 guests
Open or closed architecture: rather open, airy, including open kitchen
Balcony, roof terrace: no to both
Garage, carport: double carport planned later
House Design
Who designed it: put together myself
What do you like most? Why?
- Direct access from the bedroom through the dressing room to the bathroom
- Cloakroom niche keeps dirty shoes outside the main passage area
- Floor-to-ceiling windows for lots of light
- Straight staircase, looks modern, easier to walk on than a spiral one and better for accessibility later (stairlift)
- Very spacious living/dining/kitchen area (though perhaps too large?)
- Pantry with everything easily accessible on open shelves
What do you dislike? Why?
- Huge waste of space in the hallways
Why did the design turn out this way?
I saw a similar layout in a townhouse that I really liked at first glance. We want a generous living feel with large window areas.
Since we are planning without a basement, an extra room upstairs was created for storage, guest room, and workshop space.
Important: the bathroom layout is not really planned yet. I have inserted my first idea there but I know it is still far from a “good idea.” For now, the focus is on the basic room layout. The windows are currently more of an idea than fully thought through.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
- Do you see a way to reduce hallway space despite having a straight staircase?
- What is your overall impression of the design?
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Drasleona7 May 2020 13:55Okay, I'll double-check the walk-in closet. There should still be enough space to slide it, so I can manage that.
Does no one have any ideas about a separate toilet? Is the bathroom generally too small for that?
Maybe @kaho674 would like to share their thoughts on this?
Does no one have any ideas about a separate toilet? Is the bathroom generally too small for that?
Maybe @kaho674 would like to share their thoughts on this?
Drasleona schrieb:
Doesn’t anyone have ideas about a fully enclosed toilet? We already discussed this topic in another thread. And I don’t mean the separate toilet that @Alessandro supports, but a partitioned toilet inside the bathroom, like in your case.
- You lose a lot of space. There are walls all around.
- It also costs extra: building the walls, more wall tiles, possibly a sliding door made of glass.
- It would be too small for me. I can’t tell what the wall thickness is supposed to be, but the toilet cistern also needs space. I’m not technically knowledgeable enough to say if it could be hidden inside that small wall, otherwise you’d need an additional 15–20cm (6–8 inches) of stud wall. Depending on the model, the toilet itself is about 60cm (24 inches) deep. So you don’t have much room in front of it.
- You don’t really get effective sound insulation. So no privacy for double use of the bathroom.
- No sink in the toilet compartment. That means you have to touch the door handle first, which came up as a point in that thread before. Some thought it was pointless since you touch the faucet anyway, etc.
- For me, it would be too uncomfortable for sitting in the main bathroom.
Drasleona schrieb:
Doesn’t anyone have any ideas regarding a closed-off toilet? Is the bathroom generally too small for that?
Perhaps @kaho674 might like to share their thoughts on this? Sorry, I haven’t been following the discussion. Without a layout plan, I’m not motivated to comment. Is there one hidden somewhere in the thread?
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Drasleona7 May 2020 14:42I’m attaching the site plan again, we have made only minor changes to it.
The ground floor is shown. The bathroom on the upper floor is located in the corner on the east side, and the bedroom is in the corner on the south side. (This means, of course, that the site plan is properly oriented to the north).
I hope this helps you with the orientation.
The ground floor is shown. The bathroom on the upper floor is located in the corner on the east side, and the bedroom is in the corner on the south side. (This means, of course, that the site plan is properly oriented to the north).
I hope this helps you with the orientation.
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Alessandro7 May 2020 15:19The only thing I can think of, with the same room layout, would be:
Here, you would just have to arrange the windows differently.
Here, you would just have to arrange the windows differently.
Drasleona schrieb:
I spontaneously thought that a "floating" sliding door could be installed in front of the toilet, which, when open, would cover the niche for the washing machine and dryer (stacked on top of each other).I have certainly read sillier ideas on this forum, and this one is at least clever. I also agree with your own assessment Drasleona schrieb:
It’s not absolutely necessary, you can manage without a separate toilet room... It was just an idea we had.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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