ᐅ Location of a city villa or detached single-family house on a 500 m² rectangular plot
Created on: 17 Jan 2020 18:03
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Tolentino
Dear all,
after sharing the floor plans of my possible hamster cage with you in the other thread , here comes the next thread (thanks again for all the constructive suggestions there).
Just so you know, the semi-detached house is not off the table yet, as this plot of land is highly sought after and it’s not clear whether it will work out. But this one would be my favorite.
Now to this plot. For now, I’m mainly concerned with where and roughly how the house should be positioned on this plot.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 500 m² (5400 sq ft)
Slope: none
Site coverage ratio: 0.2
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) from the street, 3 m (10 ft) from neighbors
Edge development: allowed for garages and sheds, none existing on the plot
Number of parking spaces: 1-2
Number of floors: 1.5–2.5
Roof shape: no preference
Architectural style: no preference
Orientation: aligned parallel to the street
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height max. 9 m (30 ft)
Below are the site plans I created myself based on the details from the listing.
This is a rough overview of the plot with building boundaries and dimensions.
My question is: where to put the house?
The broker suggests placing it towards the back, since you already have the 5 m (16 ft) setback at the front and would “gain” about 3 m (10 ft) of garden. My partner doesn’t like this because of the visibility from the street. I say: privacy screen! But I also think, a fence too high might create a prison-yard feel.
But even if you follow this suggestion, I wonder if a more square floor plan (-> town villa style) would be better?
Like this, for example:
Then parking space might be tricky, right?
Or upright like this?
I really want as much of a west-facing view and garden as possible. I tend to be an evening person and that side is less built up, due to the road. So I think more light comes through.
But the narrow floor plan caused lots of problems with the semi-detached house already. Well, here you could build longer instead.
What do you think?
Best regards
Tolentino
after sharing the floor plans of my possible hamster cage with you in the other thread , here comes the next thread (thanks again for all the constructive suggestions there).
Just so you know, the semi-detached house is not off the table yet, as this plot of land is highly sought after and it’s not clear whether it will work out. But this one would be my favorite.
Now to this plot. For now, I’m mainly concerned with where and roughly how the house should be positioned on this plot.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 500 m² (5400 sq ft)
Slope: none
Site coverage ratio: 0.2
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) from the street, 3 m (10 ft) from neighbors
Edge development: allowed for garages and sheds, none existing on the plot
Number of parking spaces: 1-2
Number of floors: 1.5–2.5
Roof shape: no preference
Architectural style: no preference
Orientation: aligned parallel to the street
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height max. 9 m (30 ft)
Below are the site plans I created myself based on the details from the listing.
This is a rough overview of the plot with building boundaries and dimensions.
My question is: where to put the house?
The broker suggests placing it towards the back, since you already have the 5 m (16 ft) setback at the front and would “gain” about 3 m (10 ft) of garden. My partner doesn’t like this because of the visibility from the street. I say: privacy screen! But I also think, a fence too high might create a prison-yard feel.
But even if you follow this suggestion, I wonder if a more square floor plan (-> town villa style) would be better?
Like this, for example:
Then parking space might be tricky, right?
Or upright like this?
I really want as much of a west-facing view and garden as possible. I tend to be an evening person and that side is less built up, due to the road. So I think more light comes through.
But the narrow floor plan caused lots of problems with the semi-detached house already. Well, here you could build longer instead.
What do you think?
Best regards
Tolentino
haydee schrieb:
I find 300 K way too low for the house. Later, with higher expenses and children, it probably won’t be enough, or only barely. Better to plan for that from the start.That’s exactly why the budget is so low — to keep it affordable. I don’t understand the logic that I should spend more money now because I’ll have higher expenses later with children. Or am I misunderstanding something?
haydee schrieb:
On the ground floor, the missing coat storage is a major problem, and although having about 1 m (3 feet) between the kitchen unit and the table looks good, in reality there are chairs there, so it will be very tight. An L-shaped kitchen layout is not necessarily ergonomic either.Is a 2.5 m (8.2 feet) by 60 cm (24 inches) by 2.35 m (7.7 feet) wardrobe not enough?
The kitchen isn’t really an L-shape. On the top side of the plan there are mainly tall units, so not really a continuous run. But anyway, how would it be better?
haydee schrieb:
The children’s rooms upstairs should be arranged differently. The outer ones are very difficult to furnish.I think I managed it quite well. Each child has a 1.5 m (4.9 feet) by 2.35 m (7.7 feet) by 60 cm (24 inches) wardrobe, a large shelf, a bed, a desk, and still play space. But yes, I don’t like the irregular layout myself. How else could it be done better?
Good luck
Tolentino
Whether these are tall cabinets or countertop space, the walkway in the kitchen is very narrow. It stays extremely tight with chairs where someone might still be sitting. Try using a peninsula layout and rotate the table.
The cabinet needs to hold everything for 5 people: jackets, shoes, bags, hats. Just 5 jackets, 5 pairs of shoes, scarves, hats, gloves for 5 people, and 5 bags (school, daycare, work) are easily accessible and left out in the open. Everything else has to be stored away. Storage space is very limited, and on top of that, the children’s snow pants that will be passed from child 2 to child 3 next winter are hanging there.
An extra 100 euros monthly in loan payments is easier to manage than struggling to find an additional 10,000 euros. And 10,000 euros is not much for the outdoor area. Time won’t increase either.
The cabinet needs to hold everything for 5 people: jackets, shoes, bags, hats. Just 5 jackets, 5 pairs of shoes, scarves, hats, gloves for 5 people, and 5 bags (school, daycare, work) are easily accessible and left out in the open. Everything else has to be stored away. Storage space is very limited, and on top of that, the children’s snow pants that will be passed from child 2 to child 3 next winter are hanging there.
An extra 100 euros monthly in loan payments is easier to manage than struggling to find an additional 10,000 euros. And 10,000 euros is not much for the outdoor area. Time won’t increase either.
I don’t find this appealing at all. Everything feels very narrow and elongated. I believe the planning is oriented the wrong way (entry from the short side), which results in only long, narrow rooms.
The hallway is narrow and, with a wardrobe cabinet, it will become a bottleneck.
The children’s rooms are only about half as large as the numbers suggest.
I’m also unsure about this: the utility room and guest WC get nice evening light in the summer. The way you talk down this side of the property, it definitely isn’t unattractive. I actually see the east side as less appealing here.
How do you imagine parking spaces? Parking at the front and then going around the house?
Why not place the entrance next to the staircase in the northeast and have short hallway distances along with sensible room layouts?
For example, utility room in the northeast, guest room in the southeast, and the main living area in an L-shape?
The hallway is narrow and, with a wardrobe cabinet, it will become a bottleneck.
The children’s rooms are only about half as large as the numbers suggest.
I’m also unsure about this: the utility room and guest WC get nice evening light in the summer. The way you talk down this side of the property, it definitely isn’t unattractive. I actually see the east side as less appealing here.
How do you imagine parking spaces? Parking at the front and then going around the house?
Why not place the entrance next to the staircase in the northeast and have short hallway distances along with sensible room layouts?
For example, utility room in the northeast, guest room in the southeast, and the main living area in an L-shape?
I don’t find the entrance on what is the back of the house from the street view very ideal.
The mail carrier will have to get used to it, and if you often order pizza delivery, it might already be cold before the entrance is found.
There are also other reasons – as mentioned above – to place the front door facing north, which would allow for a better floor plan.
The mail carrier will have to get used to it, and if you often order pizza delivery, it might already be cold before the entrance is found.
There are also other reasons – as mentioned above – to place the front door facing north, which would allow for a better floor plan.
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