ᐅ Floor plan for a 160 sqm urban villa – Requesting advice!
Created on: 28 Jan 2019 09:23
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Bauherrin92
Hello everyone,
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!


we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
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Bauherrin9228 Jan 2019 12:38Thank you for the recent posts.
I have drawn our furniture to scale, and everything fits well, including plaster and baseboards.
Only the dressing room and wardrobe wouldn’t work as planned, as already mentioned.
To enlarge the dressing room and bathroom, you could take 1 sq meter (11 sq ft) from each child’s bedroom by moving the walls. However, this would shift the doors, and you wouldn’t be able to enter child’s room 2 anymore. Or am I missing something?
Also, whether the room next to the kitchen is called a pantry or storage room, I don’t think it matters.
Regarding ventilation... thank you for the advice, we will reconsider the whole setup.
Regarding the site plan... UNFORTUNATELY the driveway CANNOT be placed in the northeast (planning permission/building permit). Only from the north or south.
Regarding the architect... We want a completely ordinary, standard house—no slopes, no bay windows, etc. Therefore, I think the architect from the general contractor should be able to manage a floor plan like this.
I have drawn our furniture to scale, and everything fits well, including plaster and baseboards.
Only the dressing room and wardrobe wouldn’t work as planned, as already mentioned.
To enlarge the dressing room and bathroom, you could take 1 sq meter (11 sq ft) from each child’s bedroom by moving the walls. However, this would shift the doors, and you wouldn’t be able to enter child’s room 2 anymore. Or am I missing something?
Also, whether the room next to the kitchen is called a pantry or storage room, I don’t think it matters.
Regarding ventilation... thank you for the advice, we will reconsider the whole setup.
Regarding the site plan... UNFORTUNATELY the driveway CANNOT be placed in the northeast (planning permission/building permit). Only from the north or south.
Regarding the architect... We want a completely ordinary, standard house—no slopes, no bay windows, etc. Therefore, I think the architect from the general contractor should be able to manage a floor plan like this.
Not only would the door shift, but the floor plan would change as well with the relocation of the staircase from the basement to the upper floor. And I don’t see it being just 1m² (10.8 sq ft).
Apparently, your general contractor can’t deliver an off-the-shelf house.
Print the floor plan 10 times and doodle on it a bit. That way you’ll get some ideas about what is possible and what you like.
Apparently, your general contractor can’t deliver an off-the-shelf house.
Print the floor plan 10 times and doodle on it a bit. That way you’ll get some ideas about what is possible and what you like.
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Bauherrin9228 Jan 2019 12:48Zaba12 schrieb:
It wouldn’t just be the door that shifts; the floor plan would change as the staircase moves from the basement to the upper floor.I would prefer not to move the staircase, as that would make the living room narrower. I find a width of 4.38m (14 feet 4 inches) to be ideal.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
I would rather not move the stairs, as that would make the living room narrower. I consider 4.38m (14 feet 4 inches) width to be optimal. Problem identified :-p. Everything has to be considered together. It’s not just about shifting walls.I already said, this won’t be the final floor plan!
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Bauherrin9228 Jan 2019 12:59Zaba12 schrieb:
Problem identified. Everything has to be considered together. It’s not just about moving walls around.
I already said, this will not be the final floor plan!Oh dear, oh dear. We have already received several plans from different construction companies... garage on the east side... stairs on the north side... etc... they all looked even less appealing, and this floor plan is the only one that combines our wishes.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
Oh dear, oh dear. We had already received several plans from different construction companies... garage on the east side... staircase on the north... etc. Everything looked even less appealing, and this floor plan is the only one that combines all our wishes. And I don’t even want to open the discussion about construction costs and what’s included, given the talent you have for designing a functional floor plan.
Hopefully, you’re considering €2000 per square meter (approximately $185 per square foot) of living space plus additional costs for custom features, basement, ancillary building costs, and outdoor landscaping.
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