Hello everyone,
We are currently planning our single-family house and actively following this forum, like all prospective homeowners, looking through hundreds of floor plans. Now we have found THE dream floor plan—or rather, we have taken an existing floor plan from a general contractor over the past months and modified it until it became OUR floor plan. However, we would still like to gather some ideas and suggestions here in the forum—another perspective never hurts ;-)
Status: The plot has been purchased, and the appointment with the architect is scheduled. Cost and effort estimates will follow soon. We are planning a house using timber frame construction. Below are all the details—we look forward to your feedback.
Development plan / restrictions: available.
Plot size: 650 sqm (7000 sq ft approx)
Designation: 70/1
Slope: Yes, downhill both to the rear and side (5m (16 ft)). See image.
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: available, see image.
Adjacent building restrictions: garage allowed on boundary, otherwise 3 m (10 ft) setback.
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of stories: 2
Roof style: free choice
Architectural style: rather modern
Orientation: along the building line. Ridge direction parallel to the street.
Maximum heights / limitations: max eave height 6.5 m (21 ft) from lowest ground point (exceptions allowed in case of slope).
Homeowners’ requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: Gable roof, not yet finalized
Basement, floors: 2 plus basement
Number of occupants, ages: 3 (2 adults, 1 baby + 1 more child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor: kitchen, dining and living room, guest bathroom, pantry, cloakroom. Upstairs: 2 children’s rooms, master bedroom, bathroom.
Office: family use and home office.
Guest stays per year: approx. 5
Open architecture
Modern construction
Open kitchen including large island with seating
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Other wishes / special features: open, straight staircase as part of the room design, ground floor without stairs and accessible for disabled persons.
House design
Who designed the plan:
- Do-it-Yourself based on a builder’s planner
What do you particularly like and why?: everything very open, lots of windows.
What do you dislike and why?: hallway upstairs might be too narrow.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: to follow shortly
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings: 350,000
Preferred heating technology: underfloor heating, fireplace, air/water heat pump
If you had to do without any details or extras
- you could give up:
- you could not give up: straight staircase, open design
Why is the design as it is now? Months of planning and adjusting.
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
Thanks and best regards
Michael and Babsi
We are currently planning our single-family house and actively following this forum, like all prospective homeowners, looking through hundreds of floor plans. Now we have found THE dream floor plan—or rather, we have taken an existing floor plan from a general contractor over the past months and modified it until it became OUR floor plan. However, we would still like to gather some ideas and suggestions here in the forum—another perspective never hurts ;-)
Status: The plot has been purchased, and the appointment with the architect is scheduled. Cost and effort estimates will follow soon. We are planning a house using timber frame construction. Below are all the details—we look forward to your feedback.
Development plan / restrictions: available.
Plot size: 650 sqm (7000 sq ft approx)
Designation: 70/1
Slope: Yes, downhill both to the rear and side (5m (16 ft)). See image.
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: available, see image.
Adjacent building restrictions: garage allowed on boundary, otherwise 3 m (10 ft) setback.
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of stories: 2
Roof style: free choice
Architectural style: rather modern
Orientation: along the building line. Ridge direction parallel to the street.
Maximum heights / limitations: max eave height 6.5 m (21 ft) from lowest ground point (exceptions allowed in case of slope).
Homeowners’ requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: Gable roof, not yet finalized
Basement, floors: 2 plus basement
Number of occupants, ages: 3 (2 adults, 1 baby + 1 more child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor: kitchen, dining and living room, guest bathroom, pantry, cloakroom. Upstairs: 2 children’s rooms, master bedroom, bathroom.
Office: family use and home office.
Guest stays per year: approx. 5
Open architecture
Modern construction
Open kitchen including large island with seating
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Other wishes / special features: open, straight staircase as part of the room design, ground floor without stairs and accessible for disabled persons.
House design
Who designed the plan:
- Do-it-Yourself based on a builder’s planner
What do you particularly like and why?: everything very open, lots of windows.
What do you dislike and why?: hallway upstairs might be too narrow.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: to follow shortly
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings: 350,000
Preferred heating technology: underfloor heating, fireplace, air/water heat pump
If you had to do without any details or extras
- you could give up:
- you could not give up: straight staircase, open design
Why is the design as it is now? Months of planning and adjusting.
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
Thanks and best regards
Michael and Babsi
T
toxicmolotof17 Aug 2017 00:18I think you can forget this naive idea about the house price.
350 (maybe) is realistic for a flat plot without a basement. And possibly with 20m² (215 square feet) less...
But with a usable basement, I clearly see a 4 upfront plus the land cost for you. With a living basement, you are approaching 5.
350 (maybe) is realistic for a flat plot without a basement. And possibly with 20m² (215 square feet) less...
But with a usable basement, I clearly see a 4 upfront plus the land cost for you. With a living basement, you are approaching 5.
Don_Mikele87 schrieb:
We are building in the Hintertaunus region, far away from everythingUnfortunately, far from expensive is not possible in the Taunus area.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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Don_Mikele87 schrieb:
We are building in the Hintertaunus region, far away from everything So, the same companies that operate everywhere between Frankfurt and Cologne will be relevant here. That already means higher prices. On top of that, a rather complex architectural design also pushes the price up significantly.
For comparison: we are building on the other side, east of Frankfurt. There, even craftsmen from Thuringia sometimes come.
Our total cost is around 340,000 including the garage but excluding additional construction costs. Although the basement is a waterproof concrete structure (“white tank”), our above-ground floor area is 35m² (375 sq ft) smaller.
That will likely be very, very tight.
Hello,
I estimate the house (without a basement) at around 300,000 euros (excluding flooring, painting, and expensive extras), but probably higher with the bay windows. The basement will cost about 60,000 euros as well, possibly more given your hillside location. On top of that, there are additional costs and the garage, so the total will likely exceed 400,000 euros.
Best regards
Sabine
I estimate the house (without a basement) at around 300,000 euros (excluding flooring, painting, and expensive extras), but probably higher with the bay windows. The basement will cost about 60,000 euros as well, possibly more given your hillside location. On top of that, there are additional costs and the garage, so the total will likely exceed 400,000 euros.
Best regards
Sabine
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Don_Mikele8717 Aug 2017 09:46First of all, thank you very much for your feedback – just for that, registering in this forum has already been worthwhile 🙂 What we take away for ourselves is that the naively planned budget of 350,000 euros (approximately $375,000) will not be sufficient, at least for this house size / floor plan.
Apart from the costs, does anyone have any further suggestions regarding the floor plan? This might need to be scrapped, although 170 square meters (approximately 1,830 square feet) in a rural area is not a huge construction project 🙂
We also considered a basement garage on a slope, but we want the garage close to the entrance.
The staircases do line up; it's probably just due to the way they are shown – I only took a screenshot from the planning software for each. The staircase is not too short either; I took it exactly as provided in the floor plan by the house manufacturer – we have even walked up and down this staircase in the corresponding show house ;-)
The two bay windows or projections are only planned for the ground floor; we do not want any balconies or similar over them on the upper floor.
What do you mean by "too generous"? The table is 1.35 meters by 2.31 meters (approximately 4.4 feet by 7.6 feet) including chairs, and the kitchen island is 1.6 meters by 0.9 meters (approximately 5.25 feet by 3 feet).
What do you mean by “not simple architecture”? For me as a layperson, this is basically a rectangular house with two projections / bay windows. Admittedly, bay windows are expensive. Other than that, everything is quite straightforward. As I said, I am a layperson without construction experience 😉
Apart from the costs, does anyone have any further suggestions regarding the floor plan? This might need to be scrapped, although 170 square meters (approximately 1,830 square feet) in a rural area is not a huge construction project 🙂
kbt09 schrieb:
Wouldn’t it make more sense to build the garage downhill, possibly integrating it into the basement (partial basement)?
Somehow the floor plans don’t look like the staircases line up. The staircase on the ground floor also looks too short.
There are quite a few projections and recesses on the ground floor, what is planned for the upper floor? Balconies?
We also considered a basement garage on a slope, but we want the garage close to the entrance.
The staircases do line up; it's probably just due to the way they are shown – I only took a screenshot from the planning software for each. The staircase is not too short either; I took it exactly as provided in the floor plan by the house manufacturer – we have even walked up and down this staircase in the corresponding show house ;-)
The two bay windows or projections are only planned for the ground floor; we do not want any balconies or similar over them on the upper floor.
ypg schrieb:
I don’t want to be a spoilsport, but you should have a properly sized (as desired) kitchen island and a normal dining table (90 x 200?). It seems too generous for the dimensions.
What do you mean by "too generous"? The table is 1.35 meters by 2.31 meters (approximately 4.4 feet by 7.6 feet) including chairs, and the kitchen island is 1.6 meters by 0.9 meters (approximately 5.25 feet by 3 feet).
RobsonMKK schrieb:
So it looks like the same companies that operate between Frankfurt and Cologne will be considered anyway. That already raises prices. Add to that a not exactly simple architecture, which also drives the cost up quite a bit.
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What do you mean by “not simple architecture”? For me as a layperson, this is basically a rectangular house with two projections / bay windows. Admittedly, bay windows are expensive. Other than that, everything is quite straightforward. As I said, I am a layperson without construction experience 😉
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