Hello!
Our construction started about 2.5 weeks ago, and we are currently planning the electrical system. We are wondering how to install internet in the house.
About the house:
The house is built using solid construction methods from Viebrockhaus. Radio waves barely pass through the ceiling between the ground floor (GF) and the upper floor (UF). On the UF, the interior walls are drywall with metal elements, which also blocks radio waves significantly.
For the ground floor:
We want to set up Wi-Fi with the router located in the utility room. This should provide coverage throughout the entire ground floor and help reduce electromagnetic pollution to some extent.
For the upper floor:
This question is more complex. We lean toward a LAN solution to minimize electromagnetic pollution.
Option 1: Run LAN cables through the empty conduits from the utility room to each room on the upper floor.
Option 2: Use powerline adapters (network over the electrical wiring).
-> We tend to choose the second option because there are more power outlets than LAN ports in each room. It is also somewhat cheaper, though the price difference is minor in a project of this scale.
What do you think? Will this solution work without problems, or are there limitations? Have you had any experience with this?
Thank you very much for your input.
Our construction started about 2.5 weeks ago, and we are currently planning the electrical system. We are wondering how to install internet in the house.
About the house:
The house is built using solid construction methods from Viebrockhaus. Radio waves barely pass through the ceiling between the ground floor (GF) and the upper floor (UF). On the UF, the interior walls are drywall with metal elements, which also blocks radio waves significantly.
For the ground floor:
We want to set up Wi-Fi with the router located in the utility room. This should provide coverage throughout the entire ground floor and help reduce electromagnetic pollution to some extent.
For the upper floor:
This question is more complex. We lean toward a LAN solution to minimize electromagnetic pollution.
Option 1: Run LAN cables through the empty conduits from the utility room to each room on the upper floor.
Option 2: Use powerline adapters (network over the electrical wiring).
-> We tend to choose the second option because there are more power outlets than LAN ports in each room. It is also somewhat cheaper, though the price difference is minor in a project of this scale.
What do you think? Will this solution work without problems, or are there limitations? Have you had any experience with this?
Thank you very much for your input.
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Steffen8024 Oct 2016 09:17Alex85 schrieb:
Well, 8k streams already exist and have peaks over 50 Mbit/s. Of course, compression is used, but that’s not a big deal. I don’t think this means the end of copper wiring right away. In-house cabling won’t be the bottleneck for quite some time, if ever.
For Dolby Atmos, you mainly need suspended ceilings and walls to integrate the maximum number of speakers. Setting Atmos up on 5.1, 7.1, or 9.1 configurations is nice but misses the point. So copper cable is the least of the problems.
One LAN per floor, one access point per floor.8k streams... from the internet or what? Like 4k on YouTube? That’s not comparable and far from practical — especially on YouTube with its really poor quality. Have you ever compared YouTube 4k with “true” 4k on a 4k TV? They are worlds apart! They have to be, because otherwise nobody in a country like Germany, which is basically a third-world internet country, could stream 4k YouTube.
For example, I streamed The Hobbit in 3D/HD as a Blu-ray ISO here... Peak was 110 Mbit/s. The NAS is about 30 meters (100 feet) of cable length away. With a 100 Mbit network, I couldn’t get it to run smoothly. I’m always talking about streaming across the network — not playing directly on a player connected to the TV! 8k data volumes are 16 times larger. For various 4k movies I’ve seen peaks over 300 Mbit/s.
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Peanuts7424 Oct 2016 09:25RobsonMKK schrieb:
The cable has at least 1,000 Mbit... and as soon as you do more than just basic internet browsing and some TV, you’ll run into issues. You can forget using a NAS with powerline adapters.
It’s better to be a bit flexible and run a LAN cable behind the baseboard.These days, there are so many problems we don’t have to deal with anymore. Thinking back to my early internet days, I ran a telephone cable from the ground floor through the stairwell to the attic to connect my 9600 baud modem.
Apart from that, if you end up unable to use the carefully chosen desk spot in the child’s room, as a last resort you can always use powerline adapters within the room or simply rely on Wi-Fi throughout the entire attic.
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Steffen8024 Oct 2016 09:46Peanuts74 schrieb:
The problems people face these days are unbelievable. I remember back in my early internet days, I ran a telephone cable from the ground floor through the stairwell up to the attic to connect my 9600 baud modem.
That aside, if it turns out to be impossible to use the carefully chosen desk spot in the child’s room, as a last resort you can always use a powerline adapter within the kid’s room or just rely on the Wi-Fi throughout the entire attic.The problems people face these days are unbelievable. My great-great-great-grandmother still had to hitch the horses to the wagon before going into town. And now everyone just gets in their car... lazy bunch...
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Peanuts7424 Oct 2016 10:04Steffen80 schrieb:
What problems people have nowadays. My great-great-grandmother still had to hitch horses to the carriage before heading into town. And today, everyone just gets into their car... lazy bunch...I didn’t mean to bring back “the good old days,” but I don’t understand why people don’t just install CAT cables in every room.
The effort involved is quite manageable, and it’s by far the simplest and most sensible solution.
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Bauexperte24 Oct 2016 10:19Peanuts74 schrieb:
.... that you simply don’t run CAT cables into every room.A quick off-topic question from a beginner: Are CAT cables really so sensitive that special care must be taken during installation?Regards, Bauexperte
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