ᐅ Supplementary Proposal for Electrical Planning – Aachen Area

Created on: 1 Jun 2024 00:44
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CD_MD90
Hello everyone,

I have been a silent reader until now and would like to share my experience. We are building with a local general contractor and have included a certain number of power outlets and light points in the package. We spent several hours with the electrician going through the shell construction, and the following offer was created.

I’m sharing this with you as information about current prices (Aachen area). I would also appreciate any feedback if you notice anything. Here is a summary:
- Additional power outlet €55
- Additional light point €50
- Cat 7 wiring in 6 rooms (always double outlets) €1,728
- Satellite system + wiring in 6 rooms €3,150
- LED spot 5W €50
- Stairway orientation light €96

We originally wanted to discuss photovoltaics separately. However, the electrician has already included part of it in the offer.

The spots and orientation lights seem quite expensive to me, especially since the light point is charged separately.

Best regards
Christian


Electrical invoice: flush-mounted boxes, switches, push buttons in living room, kitchen, hallway; delivery and installation.



Electrical installation list with items such as ceiling/wall light points, lighting.



Installation list: items 15–24 with RCD/MCB, boxes, lights, outlets, garage, CAT network



Site list: power/IT outlets, patch panels, satellite system, cable overview[/ ALT]



Invoice with items: equipotential bonding, PV system, meter, wiring, total €10,670.73
Tolentino2 Jun 2024 10:40
kbt09 schrieb:

that can preferably be switched off from the inside
Just make sure that standard light switches aren’t used for this. They are often only rated up to 10A and protected accordingly, which means about 2200–2300 watts (23.7–24.6 amps) max—this is no longer sufficient for many garden tools.
Normally, a single circuit breaker is enough, or if you have a lot of freeloaders in the neighborhood, then use an outlet with a lockable cover.
Araknis2 Jun 2024 11:16
CD_MD90 schrieb:

We are torn. It’s quite a bit of money. On the other hand, it also provides independence from the internet and streaming services. Plus, it adds value to the house.

Alternatively, you could use Sat>IP and be done with the issue, even without major installation throughout the entire house.
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RotorMotor
2 Jun 2024 11:19
CD_MD90 schrieb:

We are torn. It’s quite a lot of money. On the other hand, it also creates independence from the Internet and streaming services. And it also adds value to the house.
How does such an ugly dish, which mostly also shades the south side, add value to a house?
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hanse987
2 Jun 2024 12:24
CD_MD90 schrieb:

One network connection per room is enough for me to work, watch TV, play PlayStation, etc. We don’t have greater demands. Or is there any reason against using an access point patch panel?

You need to decide whether you want to mount everything (patch panel, switch, router, maybe also NAS...) on the wall or place it inside a cabinet. Both ways will work.

What you haven’t addressed yet is how the Wi-Fi should be implemented. Simply connecting an access point somewhere to a network outlet without any prior planning?
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ypg
2 Jun 2024 14:44
Haha, a satellite dish just doesn’t block the south. However, I think having 6 connections for something that might only be an extra feature is quite a lot. Aren’t two enough, for the living room and possibly the bedroom? Kids hardly watch TV anyway.

I’d like to know whether these prices are directly from the electrician or if they go through the general contractor?

By the way: in the utility room, I could almost use 8 outlets, and in the bedroom, I would miss a two-way switch if you’re going to spend that much anyway.
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CD_MD90
3 Jun 2024 11:22
RotorMotor schrieb:

How does such an ugly dish, which mostly also shades the south side, add value to a house?

Well, more likely the existing wiring. But satellite TV is no longer part of our plans; the money will be used elsewhere.
ypg schrieb:

I would like to know if these prices are directly from the electrician or handled through the general contractor?

The prices are directly from the electrician. In the end, of course, it will officially be commissioned through the general contractor, who then receives their commission or whatever. We can’t influence that anyway.
If anyone from the area is interested: the general contractor is Indeland Massivhaus, the electrician is Acksteiner, both based in Eschweiler. So far, we are satisfied.
hanse987 schrieb:

You haven’t addressed this yet—how will the Wi-Fi be implemented? Just plugging an access point somewhere into a network outlet without any prior planning?

Good point. So far, we have planned one twin outlet for each bedroom/study and two in the living room. See green markings.
Now that you mention it, I would also consider adding network outlets plus access points at ceiling height in both hallways, see red question marks. Also one in the garage, but something was already planned there for the future wall box preparation.
Our exterior dimensions are 7 x 12m (23 x 39 feet), so that should be sufficient, right? Do you have a recommendation for an access point?

Four views of a house on blueprints, all marked with red crosses.


Floor plan of a house: living room, dining, kitchen, utility room, storage, hallway, doors, dimensions.


Floor plan of a residential house with master bedroom, two children's rooms, bathroom, and hallway.


Interior floor plan with measurements, studio area and ceiling structure (wood beam ceiling).