Hello,
We have a small kitchen and need to provide the installer with connection details soon, so we are forced to start thinking about the kitchen layout. Attached is our concept – honestly, we don’t see any other arrangement. That’s why I’m asking here for advice, criticism, and maybe even alternative options.
A few details:
- The kitchen is open to the dining/living area
- The refrigerator is already in place
- The wall behind the refrigerator is extra narrow to recess it by 10cm (4 inches) and save space
- A pull-out pantry would be nice
- A built-in oven is a must
- The passage between the refrigerator and the counter is 1.00m (39 inches)
- Access from the hallway through a sliding door on the hallway side
Questions:
- Is there a more practical way to arrange the oven, cooktop, sink, and dishwasher?
- Would it be better to choose an L-shape instead of a U-shape, or is the passage between the refrigerator and the counter too narrow? The U-shape would have the advantage of allowing drawers to be accessed from outside, i.e., from the dining table side.
Preferences:
- Induction cooktop
- A carousel for pots under the cooktop
- Stone countertop (budget is the main reason this might be the first item to reconsider)
Budget: 10,000 - 12,000 €
Thanks in advance!
We have a small kitchen and need to provide the installer with connection details soon, so we are forced to start thinking about the kitchen layout. Attached is our concept – honestly, we don’t see any other arrangement. That’s why I’m asking here for advice, criticism, and maybe even alternative options.
A few details:
- The kitchen is open to the dining/living area
- The refrigerator is already in place
- The wall behind the refrigerator is extra narrow to recess it by 10cm (4 inches) and save space
- A pull-out pantry would be nice
- A built-in oven is a must
- The passage between the refrigerator and the counter is 1.00m (39 inches)
- Access from the hallway through a sliding door on the hallway side
Questions:
- Is there a more practical way to arrange the oven, cooktop, sink, and dishwasher?
- Would it be better to choose an L-shape instead of a U-shape, or is the passage between the refrigerator and the counter too narrow? The U-shape would have the advantage of allowing drawers to be accessed from outside, i.e., from the dining table side.
Preferences:
- Induction cooktop
- A carousel for pots under the cooktop
- Stone countertop (budget is the main reason this might be the first item to reconsider)
Budget: 10,000 - 12,000 €
Thanks in advance!
Hello Neige,
thanks, now I understand what you meant. However, the only wall cabinet would be removed if the cooktop were moved there. I agree with gaining space and also swapping the sink and dishwasher.
Hello Yvonne,
the dimensions refer to the finished room, so with the interior plaster, at least 3.00 m (9 feet 10 inches) remain on the wall facing the office. The window sill height is 140 cm (55 inches) from the top edge of the finished floor. The window width is 175 cm (69 inches).
If modern means completely giving up wall cabinets, then not entirely. One is planned, 100 cm (39 inches) wide, with a two-part front that opens upwards. No handles would basically be an option and is considered modern as well. Hinged doors are not desired, except under the sink. Otherwise, only drawers and wide ones at that. What do you mean by slants? The cooktop arranged at a 45-degree angle? The cooktop could certainly be wider than the usual 60 cm (24 inches); with touch controls (probably standard by now); the dishwasher should be quiet and energy class A++++++. 🙂 We currently don’t have one and decided to avoid hand washing dishes in the house from now on. 😀 The oven should also have a retractable door and a cleaning program.
Looking forward to your drawing!
Best regards to everyone!
thanks, now I understand what you meant. However, the only wall cabinet would be removed if the cooktop were moved there. I agree with gaining space and also swapping the sink and dishwasher.
Hello Yvonne,
the dimensions refer to the finished room, so with the interior plaster, at least 3.00 m (9 feet 10 inches) remain on the wall facing the office. The window sill height is 140 cm (55 inches) from the top edge of the finished floor. The window width is 175 cm (69 inches).
If modern means completely giving up wall cabinets, then not entirely. One is planned, 100 cm (39 inches) wide, with a two-part front that opens upwards. No handles would basically be an option and is considered modern as well. Hinged doors are not desired, except under the sink. Otherwise, only drawers and wide ones at that. What do you mean by slants? The cooktop arranged at a 45-degree angle? The cooktop could certainly be wider than the usual 60 cm (24 inches); with touch controls (probably standard by now); the dishwasher should be quiet and energy class A++++++. 🙂 We currently don’t have one and decided to avoid hand washing dishes in the house from now on. 😀 The oven should also have a retractable door and a cleaning program.
Looking forward to your drawing!
Best regards to everyone!
sirhc schrieb:
We currently don’t have one and have decided not to wash dishes by hand anymore in the houseI do hope you will still wash dishes by hand occasionally. Otherwise, you’ll quickly lose enjoyment with good knives and pans—those absolutely have no place in a dishwasher 😉
But I would also advise against the corner cooktop, especially if it is 70 or 80cm (28 or 31.5 inches) wide, as that could become problematic.
What do you plan to store in the wall cabinet?
RobsonMKK schrieb:
What are you planning to store in the wall cabinet?We have these wall cabinets as well, and we keep our cups, mugs, and all glasses in them.
RobsonMKK schrieb:
@ypg I asked because he mentioned using the rear side in the original post, and you can not only place drawers there but also display cabinets.I understand 🙂 Constantly bending down and moving around the island isn’t really ideal either.
sirhc schrieb:
We have a small kitchen and need to provide the installer with connection details soon, so we are forced to start thinking seriously about the kitchen layout.Since the space is far from generous and two doors plus a large window and an oversized refrigerator take up room, it’s now a case of “make it work or lose it.”
The planning should definitely have started much earlier. This isn’t your first time in this forum anyway 😉
To be honest, I’m not satisfied with how I started.
Siggi (@Neige) has already made some improvements, and I’m now trying to fine-tune everything in 3D so all kitchen-related aspects fit properly.
ypg schrieb:
I understand 🙂 Constantly bending down and going all around the island is really not idealOf course, it’s not ideal. But as you mentioned, the kitchen isn’t very large, and a corner cooktop isn’t really great either.
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