ᐅ Single-family home, approximately 160 m², Bauhaus style; first design draft based on our requirements
Created on: 23 Aug 2019 22:03
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Hello everyone,
we've been looking forward to this for a long time, and now we can finally share our first draft floor plan/design for discussion. We’re very curious to hear your feedback.
Those of you who have seen my thread before (https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-Bauhausstil-Wohnfläche-180m-mit-Doppelgarage.31853/) know what to expect, and here comes the gem.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 530m² (about 5,700 sq ft)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio (Grundflächenzahl): see screenshot
Floor area ratio (Geschossflächenzahl): see screenshot
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: see screenshot
Edge development: see screenshot
Number of parking spaces: double garage
Number of floors: 2
Roof style: flat roof
Architectural style: Bauhaus
Orientation
Maximum height/limitations
Other requirements
The green highlighted area represents our plot => Parcel 8479
Homeowner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Bauhaus style, flat roof
Basement, floors: Basement yes, ground floor, upper floor
Number of residents, ages: 3 people, potentially 4: 33, 30, 2 years old
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: Initially planned 180 m² (about 1,940 sq ft) on two stories, now reduced to 160 m² (about 1,720 sq ft) after feedback, with the ground floor slightly larger than the upper floor, around 75–85 m² (810–915 sq ft)
Office: Family use or home office? Yes, in the basement (guest room <-> office)
Overnight guests per year: Hard to say, probably about 10 times per year with 2–5 guests each time
Open or closed architecture: Rather open
Conservative or modern construction: Rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: Island
Number of dining spaces: 1
Fireplace: Yes
Music/sound system wall: Our soundbar is sufficient
Balcony, roof terrace: Maybe, undecided (Architect’s comment: How often do you really go out for a beer on the balcony/roof terrace instead of the nice terrace on the ground floor?)
Garage, carport: Double garage, possibly single garage with carport
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: Small but nice (a few tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchinis…)
House Design
Planning by: Architect
What do you particularly like? Why? We like the architecture with the two offset rectangles, though we wonder if the extra cost (no price estimate yet) justifies this. We believe it is structurally more challenging than a simple "cube."
What don’t you like? Why? The size of the bedroom/walk-in closet/children’s room. It feels like the bedroom is missing 2–5 m² (about 20–55 sq ft), as is the second children’s room.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: The initial draft was around 550,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 620,000 EUR
Preferred heating technology: Indifferent, but tendency toward heat pump.
If you had to give up something, which details/finishes
- You can give up: the current shape (nice but a cube would also do)
- You cannot give up: space
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Standard design from the planner? This is the second design resulting from last week’s discussion with us, and we find it very successful.
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Absolutely, plus the idea he had to move the kitchen during development. The guest room has now moved to the basement, allowing more space on the ground floor (beforehand, it felt quite cramped and “squeezed”).
What makes it especially good or bad in your opinion? The architecture
...and now I’ll leave you alone with our house
Upper floor plan:
Basement:
we've been looking forward to this for a long time, and now we can finally share our first draft floor plan/design for discussion. We’re very curious to hear your feedback.
Those of you who have seen my thread before (https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-Bauhausstil-Wohnfläche-180m-mit-Doppelgarage.31853/) know what to expect, and here comes the gem.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 530m² (about 5,700 sq ft)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio (Grundflächenzahl): see screenshot
Floor area ratio (Geschossflächenzahl): see screenshot
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: see screenshot
Edge development: see screenshot
Number of parking spaces: double garage
Number of floors: 2
Roof style: flat roof
Architectural style: Bauhaus
Orientation
Maximum height/limitations
Other requirements
The green highlighted area represents our plot => Parcel 8479
Homeowner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Bauhaus style, flat roof
Basement, floors: Basement yes, ground floor, upper floor
Number of residents, ages: 3 people, potentially 4: 33, 30, 2 years old
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: Initially planned 180 m² (about 1,940 sq ft) on two stories, now reduced to 160 m² (about 1,720 sq ft) after feedback, with the ground floor slightly larger than the upper floor, around 75–85 m² (810–915 sq ft)
Office: Family use or home office? Yes, in the basement (guest room <-> office)
Overnight guests per year: Hard to say, probably about 10 times per year with 2–5 guests each time
Open or closed architecture: Rather open
Conservative or modern construction: Rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: Island
Number of dining spaces: 1
Fireplace: Yes
Music/sound system wall: Our soundbar is sufficient
Balcony, roof terrace: Maybe, undecided (Architect’s comment: How often do you really go out for a beer on the balcony/roof terrace instead of the nice terrace on the ground floor?)
Garage, carport: Double garage, possibly single garage with carport
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: Small but nice (a few tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchinis…)
House Design
Planning by: Architect
What do you particularly like? Why? We like the architecture with the two offset rectangles, though we wonder if the extra cost (no price estimate yet) justifies this. We believe it is structurally more challenging than a simple "cube."
What don’t you like? Why? The size of the bedroom/walk-in closet/children’s room. It feels like the bedroom is missing 2–5 m² (about 20–55 sq ft), as is the second children’s room.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: The initial draft was around 550,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 620,000 EUR
Preferred heating technology: Indifferent, but tendency toward heat pump.
If you had to give up something, which details/finishes
- You can give up: the current shape (nice but a cube would also do)
- You cannot give up: space
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Standard design from the planner? This is the second design resulting from last week’s discussion with us, and we find it very successful.
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Absolutely, plus the idea he had to move the kitchen during development. The guest room has now moved to the basement, allowing more space on the ground floor (beforehand, it felt quite cramped and “squeezed”).
What makes it especially good or bad in your opinion? The architecture
...and now I’ll leave you alone with our house
Upper floor plan:
Basement:
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Bertram1008 Dec 2019 13:25I also have a kitchen island with a sink and would definitely do it that way again. The island is short enough to quickly move around when needed, close enough to the cooktop and dishwasher (half a turn backward), and holds all the necessary preparation tools (cutting boards, knives, towels). It’s deep enough for me to wipe the entire surface with one arm movement (90cm (35 inches) in my case) and doesn’t require an extra powerful range hood.
In other people’s kitchens, I find it awful when the cooktop is on the island. I don’t want to be near grease splatters and hot steam while the host spends a significant part of the cooking time tidying up.
So far, I haven’t seen the real advantage of a cooktop island.
In other people’s kitchens, I find it awful when the cooktop is on the island. I don’t want to be near grease splatters and hot steam while the host spends a significant part of the cooking time tidying up.
So far, I haven’t seen the real advantage of a cooktop island.
So, here is the next update. The project is moving forward, and for now, the last remaining task is still the elevations. Tomorrow we have the next appointment to continue exactly where we left off.
What has changed since then:
- Kfw55: We will probably no longer pursue this and will just “see where we end up.”
- The stove is back in (a small cozy addition…)
- The kitchen has now been rotated
- The terrace on the south side has been extended
- The two balcony doors on the south side have now been redesigned
- Bedroom and dressing room combined
The west elevation still shows the balcony, but this is no longer part of the plan – see the floor plan.
For the windows, we have approached the lighting requirements from the inside, as mentioned several times here. Now matching the widths etc., is it back to the rotation, right?
Additional ideas (purely based on the alignment analogy) that came to me:
- East side: Adjust the bedroom window to match the width of the kitchen window
- South: Align the bottom right window front with the dressing room window: Problem? The stove needs the full width of the wall… but I can’t move the dressing room window due to room layout
- West: Align the children’s room window flush left with the lift/slide door to the terrace.
Thoughts?
What has changed since then:
- Kfw55: We will probably no longer pursue this and will just “see where we end up.”
- The stove is back in (a small cozy addition…)
- The kitchen has now been rotated
- The terrace on the south side has been extended
- The two balcony doors on the south side have now been redesigned
- Bedroom and dressing room combined
The west elevation still shows the balcony, but this is no longer part of the plan – see the floor plan.
For the windows, we have approached the lighting requirements from the inside, as mentioned several times here. Now matching the widths etc., is it back to the rotation, right?
Additional ideas (purely based on the alignment analogy) that came to me:
- East side: Adjust the bedroom window to match the width of the kitchen window
- South: Align the bottom right window front with the dressing room window: Problem? The stove needs the full width of the wall… but I can’t move the dressing room window due to room layout
- West: Align the children’s room window flush left with the lift/slide door to the terrace.
Thoughts?
Did I count correctly? There are 11 different window sizes for 14 windows...
On the front side, there are 5 windows in 4 sizes,
and on the south side, 4 windows in 4 sizes.
Why is the kitchen designed like this? What do you expect from it? Or what is better about it?
The stainless steel chimney was deliberately left out of the elevations. It would be impossible for it to stand freely like a flagpole.
Why isn’t the stove placed centrally in the house? Opposite the staircase, the chimney could be positioned in the corner... then the living area would also benefit from the stove’s heat. The kitchen will be warm enough without a stove.
I would clear one door from the cloakroom niche. One door is enough.
Nobody wants to go through a small, cluttered cloakroom to get to the toilet. I think it is somewhat small. The space itself is sufficient but not with two extra doors.
On the front side, there are 5 windows in 4 sizes,
and on the south side, 4 windows in 4 sizes.
Why is the kitchen designed like this? What do you expect from it? Or what is better about it?
The stainless steel chimney was deliberately left out of the elevations. It would be impossible for it to stand freely like a flagpole.
Why isn’t the stove placed centrally in the house? Opposite the staircase, the chimney could be positioned in the corner... then the living area would also benefit from the stove’s heat. The kitchen will be warm enough without a stove.
I would clear one door from the cloakroom niche. One door is enough.
Nobody wants to go through a small, cluttered cloakroom to get to the toilet. I think it is somewhat small. The space itself is sufficient but not with two extra doors.
ypg schrieb:
Did I count correctly? There are 11 different sizes for 14 windows...
On the front side, there are 5 windows in 4 sizes,
and on the south side, 4 windows in 4 sizes. Tomorrow we have an appointment where we will only work on the windows and elevations overall.
ypg schrieb:
Why is the kitchen designed like this now? What do you expect from it? Or what is better about it? More space and a better sense of openness. Before, I just found it too cramped... Overall, we didn’t like it anymore; we are still working on an optimal solution because we don’t have one yet.
ypg schrieb:
Opposite the stairs, the chimney could go in the corner... then the living area would also benefit from the stove. That only doesn’t work with the roof. It would run across the hallway upstairs, drastically reducing the hallway’s clear width on both the ground floor and the upper floor (if that’s even possible). Since the stove discussion is basically an emotional decision rather than a fully sensible one, I consider the stove in the hallway “out of place.” You want to see it, not just use it as a heating replacement, which doesn’t make sense anyway in airtight building envelopes.
ypg schrieb:
I would remove one door from the coat niche. One door is enough.
Nobody wants to pass through a cluttered coat area on their way to the kids’ room. I think it is a bit small. The space itself is sufficient, but not with two extra doors. The niche doesn’t have a door at all, only the storage room does.
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