ᐅ Plot of Land – Ideas and Considerations for Orientation and Zoning Plan
Created on: 26 Oct 2020 17:32
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_Yv_St_
Hello,
we have made it to the final candidates for a plot of land. Since it is not one of the plots we prioritized in the residential area (3 were allowed to be named), we initially did not consider these plots.
We would appreciate suggestions on how to make efficient use of this rather small plot, to help us decide if the plot is suitable for us in case we are awarded the bid. We are laypeople, and our first idea might not be optimal – perhaps someone here has good ideas and arguments, possibly also for a more westerly orientation?
Our idea: as narrow and wide as possible (e.g., 7m x 12m (23 ft x 39 ft)), with large windows facing SSE, positioning the living room and children’s rooms towards the garden, set as far north as possible so there is still some garden left. Is it advantageous (lower cost) to simply build a pitched roof, or is it better to use the space under the roof – for example, as a sleeping loft for the children’s rooms or as a workspace?
It is not yet known how the neighbor on the adjacent western plot will build, but the plot has a comparable shape.
The orientation of the plan view is north-oriented. Access to the plot is from the north via the planned street (6m wide (20 ft), without a sidewalk, serving only as an access road for about 15 adjacent plots); to the south there is a footpath. On the opposite side of the footpath, there is undeveloped green space up to existing buildings.
The plot measures 18m x 22m (59 ft x 72 ft) (long side parallel to the street), approx. 406 m² (4,370 sq ft). A 2.5m (8 ft) setback is required on the north and south sides. The development plan allows for two full stories and a pitched roof with a 30–40° slope.
We want to build for a family of four (estimated 130–150 m² (1,400–1,615 sq ft) of living space) and have the following space requirements:
Ground floor:
- Living-cooking-dining: as open as possible with a large kitchen island, separation from hallway possible
- Guest room: should also be usable as a bedroom if needed (at least 12 m² (130 sq ft)), preferably accessible from the hallway
- Guest bathroom: with shower, suitable as a full bathroom
- Entrance area
Upper floor:
- Two children’s rooms: minimum 12 m² (130 sq ft), preferably 13 m² (140 sq ft) or more, as equal in size as possible
- Bedroom: space for a 2.5 m (8 ft) wardrobe, not oversized
- Bathroom: WC integrated or separate, not oversized (currently we have 8 m² (86 sq ft) without WC, but with washer and dryer)
- Study or open workspace
Basement:
- Laundry room
- Hobby room
- Workshop
- Utility/technical room
Garage (two parking spaces are mandatory and we own two cars):
- 1 garage
- 1 carport / parking space
I hope I have covered all the necessary details.
Thank you in advance!
we have made it to the final candidates for a plot of land. Since it is not one of the plots we prioritized in the residential area (3 were allowed to be named), we initially did not consider these plots.
We would appreciate suggestions on how to make efficient use of this rather small plot, to help us decide if the plot is suitable for us in case we are awarded the bid. We are laypeople, and our first idea might not be optimal – perhaps someone here has good ideas and arguments, possibly also for a more westerly orientation?
Our idea: as narrow and wide as possible (e.g., 7m x 12m (23 ft x 39 ft)), with large windows facing SSE, positioning the living room and children’s rooms towards the garden, set as far north as possible so there is still some garden left. Is it advantageous (lower cost) to simply build a pitched roof, or is it better to use the space under the roof – for example, as a sleeping loft for the children’s rooms or as a workspace?
It is not yet known how the neighbor on the adjacent western plot will build, but the plot has a comparable shape.
The orientation of the plan view is north-oriented. Access to the plot is from the north via the planned street (6m wide (20 ft), without a sidewalk, serving only as an access road for about 15 adjacent plots); to the south there is a footpath. On the opposite side of the footpath, there is undeveloped green space up to existing buildings.
The plot measures 18m x 22m (59 ft x 72 ft) (long side parallel to the street), approx. 406 m² (4,370 sq ft). A 2.5m (8 ft) setback is required on the north and south sides. The development plan allows for two full stories and a pitched roof with a 30–40° slope.
We want to build for a family of four (estimated 130–150 m² (1,400–1,615 sq ft) of living space) and have the following space requirements:
Ground floor:
- Living-cooking-dining: as open as possible with a large kitchen island, separation from hallway possible
- Guest room: should also be usable as a bedroom if needed (at least 12 m² (130 sq ft)), preferably accessible from the hallway
- Guest bathroom: with shower, suitable as a full bathroom
- Entrance area
Upper floor:
- Two children’s rooms: minimum 12 m² (130 sq ft), preferably 13 m² (140 sq ft) or more, as equal in size as possible
- Bedroom: space for a 2.5 m (8 ft) wardrobe, not oversized
- Bathroom: WC integrated or separate, not oversized (currently we have 8 m² (86 sq ft) without WC, but with washer and dryer)
- Study or open workspace
Basement:
- Laundry room
- Hobby room
- Workshop
- Utility/technical room
Garage (two parking spaces are mandatory and we own two cars):
- 1 garage
- 1 carport / parking space
I hope I have covered all the necessary details.
Thank you in advance!
One more question about the staircase: is it possible to have a straight basement stairway at the top under a staircase that turns twice by a quarter turn each going upwards, with the winding only at the bottom? So that the basement stairway is located where the staircase currently goes up next to the front door?
_Yv_St_ schrieb:
Can I design a basement staircase with a straight upper section and two quarter turns, and only have the turn at the bottom? This would mean that the two staircases, one above the other, would be identical at the "foot end" (both turning) and in the middle section (both straight), with about four steps at the "head end" for which you would need to check the headroom. Try tracing one of the staircases onto tracing paper and overlay them. Assign the top step a value of "0" and then count downwards; for example, with 18 cm (7 inches) step height, label them as -18, -36, -54, -72. If the straight penultimate step (-18) is positioned so that the step four down (-54) overlaps it, then at this point you have lost 36 cm (14 inches) of headroom compared to a parallel layout, according to this simplified calculation. @kbt09 might be able to explain this in more detail.
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Hello,
a brief update:
We are currently getting used to the idea of a staircase with two quarter turns (a straight flight down to the basement in the entrance area, a quarter turn up at the dining area, and another quarter turn at the top going out) – although we still feel a bit sorry for changing the straight staircase. We haven’t received updated plans or the exact headroom measurements at the basement stairs yet, but it seems possible.
We have also realized that we need to start planning the kitchen in more detail than we have so far. That’s why I put together the ground floor using the Ikea kitchen planner (it surprisingly allows for a lot of general planning, but for example, I couldn’t fit the basement door in, and the stairs are just placeholder, so I sketched some winding steps there). The kitchen cabinets are only placeholders at this point for mid-height, tall units, and the island. The windows are still quite open in terms of placement as well. When looking at the different options in 3D, we actually prefer the island facing the garden over the peninsula facing the dining area. What do you think of these options?
We also tried to shift the entrance area and the guest WC with shower a bit… I still have a shoe cabinet in mind… we will see when the guest WC and the door are planned in more detail. Of course, we remain open to good suggestions – this is certainly not yet the optimal layout.
Regarding the floor area, we are limited not only by the budget but also by the floor area ratio.
Best regards
a brief update:
We are currently getting used to the idea of a staircase with two quarter turns (a straight flight down to the basement in the entrance area, a quarter turn up at the dining area, and another quarter turn at the top going out) – although we still feel a bit sorry for changing the straight staircase. We haven’t received updated plans or the exact headroom measurements at the basement stairs yet, but it seems possible.
We have also realized that we need to start planning the kitchen in more detail than we have so far. That’s why I put together the ground floor using the Ikea kitchen planner (it surprisingly allows for a lot of general planning, but for example, I couldn’t fit the basement door in, and the stairs are just placeholder, so I sketched some winding steps there). The kitchen cabinets are only placeholders at this point for mid-height, tall units, and the island. The windows are still quite open in terms of placement as well. When looking at the different options in 3D, we actually prefer the island facing the garden over the peninsula facing the dining area. What do you think of these options?
We also tried to shift the entrance area and the guest WC with shower a bit… I still have a shoe cabinet in mind… we will see when the guest WC and the door are planned in more detail. Of course, we remain open to good suggestions – this is certainly not yet the optimal layout.
Regarding the floor area, we are limited not only by the budget but also by the floor area ratio.
Best regards
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