Hello everyone,
Starting tomorrow, our interior walls will be finished with Q2 plaster.
We will carry out the painting work ourselves a few weeks later.
Now we are wondering what would be the best option for this.
We have currently considered several options but are still unsure which one we prefer (cost/effort).
1. Simply paint with EasyKnauf roll plaster (fine texture)
2. Apply painter’s fleece underneath and paint with EasyKnauf roll plaster (fine texture)
3. Apply painter’s fleece underneath and paint with standard emulsion paint
4. Use textured wallpaper (Raufaser) and then paint over it
We generally don’t like ceilings and walls to be completely smooth – a fine texture is perfectly fine.
What have you done in similar situations? If it wasn’t a DIY job: What did your painter do?
Any tips/tricks/notes on this?
Starting tomorrow, our interior walls will be finished with Q2 plaster.
We will carry out the painting work ourselves a few weeks later.
Now we are wondering what would be the best option for this.
We have currently considered several options but are still unsure which one we prefer (cost/effort).
1. Simply paint with EasyKnauf roll plaster (fine texture)
2. Apply painter’s fleece underneath and paint with EasyKnauf roll plaster (fine texture)
3. Apply painter’s fleece underneath and paint with standard emulsion paint
4. Use textured wallpaper (Raufaser) and then paint over it
We generally don’t like ceilings and walls to be completely smooth – a fine texture is perfectly fine.
What have you done in similar situations? If it wasn’t a DIY job: What did your painter do?
Any tips/tricks/notes on this?
P
pagoni202012 Jan 2022 15:06You already have a basic idea that you don’t like or need smooth walls, which is a helpful starting point for making a good decision. Here you’ve read about the options, but in the end, everything is possible and you can create something you like from any of them. Many years ago, we applied white paint using a cross-brush technique and then finished with a glaze from Caparol, which gave a great result; back then, earth tones were popular, and I still like them today—they created a marbled effect that looked really nice. Later, we worked with a single color using the same method, so I never had to sand it down. It all depends on your desired goal and the fact that you say you want to do it that way, especially since there are no children and it’s done just for fun—that’s great, and I would then look for something exactly like that, which I would enjoy doing myself.
I believe you already know what you want and now just need to choose or try the right product, color, and technique. Often, changes come up during the process anyway, at least that’s how it went for us 😀
I believe you already know what you want and now just need to choose or try the right product, color, and technique. Often, changes come up during the process anyway, at least that’s how it went for us 😀
pagoni2020 schrieb:
You already have a basic idea that you don’t like or need smooth walls, which is a good starting point for making a solid decision. You’ve now read through the different options, but ultimately everything is possible and you can create something you like from any of them. Years ago, we applied white paint in a cross-hatch pattern and then used a glaze from Caparol, which gave a great result; back then, earthy tones were popular, and I still like them today; it looked somewhat marbled and really good. Later on, we worked with solid colors using the same technique, so I never had to sand it off. It really depends on your desired outcome and the fact that you say you want to do it that way since you have no kids and the mood is right is great—then I would look for exactly something I also enjoy doing myself.
I believe you already know what you want and now just need to decide or try out the right product, color, and technique. Changes often happen during the process anyway, at least that’s how it is for us 😀Definitely... thanks for your help!
I also think that our views might still change a lot just before starting the work, or we might change our minds shortly before.
One more question: my wife found some nice colors from Alpina, and according to a salesperson, these could be mixed with, for example, roller plaster from Knauf. Does something like that actually work?
If not, would I have to apply the white roller plaster everywhere first and then paint the walls I want in color with a dispersion paint afterward, correct?
As you said, I’d like to hear different arguments and then decide what fits best for us.
I’m a quiet reader in this forum—there are often really helpful tips and tricks and plenty of experience reports, which naturally help me the most.
P
pagoni202012 Jan 2022 15:26I’m not a painter, so I can only share my opinion with you.
I would tint the textured plaster with the matching tinting color. Of course, you can mix everything together, but in the end, you would be mixing Knauf paint (which turns into textured plaster because of the sand particles) with Alpina paint, which doesn’t make much sense to me. You can have any desired shade mixed at the painter’s (or do it yourself) to match your textured plaster. Since you probably need to apply two coats anyway, it might be worth considering doing the first coat with white textured plaster and the second with paint. For the second coat, depending on the wear and tear, I would look for something wash-resistant.
I once had a horror experience with mixing when we wanted to improve our bedroom with a textured plaster. We even bought a Venetian trowel and experimented, doing everything according to the painter’s instructions. For priming, we were told to use “regular” white paint, so we smartly chose Alpina white. After carefully applying the plaster thickly, the next day it was time to paint...
We were shocked because the entire plaster in the room had cracked and looked like a dried-up puddle in the desert. We ended up removing the expensive plaster completely in layers with a putty knife; more or less, it fell off by itself because it hadn’t bonded with the substrate. Later, we were told that the paint we used as a primer had effectively drawn the moisture out of the plaster. What a drama, which today thankfully makes us smile.
That doesn’t say anything about Alpina, though, as they have recently received excellent test results for some products. It just didn’t work in combination back then.
I would take white textured plaster first and then paint over it; otherwise, you’ll end up with various opened paint pots lying around.
I would tint the textured plaster with the matching tinting color. Of course, you can mix everything together, but in the end, you would be mixing Knauf paint (which turns into textured plaster because of the sand particles) with Alpina paint, which doesn’t make much sense to me. You can have any desired shade mixed at the painter’s (or do it yourself) to match your textured plaster. Since you probably need to apply two coats anyway, it might be worth considering doing the first coat with white textured plaster and the second with paint. For the second coat, depending on the wear and tear, I would look for something wash-resistant.
I once had a horror experience with mixing when we wanted to improve our bedroom with a textured plaster. We even bought a Venetian trowel and experimented, doing everything according to the painter’s instructions. For priming, we were told to use “regular” white paint, so we smartly chose Alpina white. After carefully applying the plaster thickly, the next day it was time to paint...
We were shocked because the entire plaster in the room had cracked and looked like a dried-up puddle in the desert. We ended up removing the expensive plaster completely in layers with a putty knife; more or less, it fell off by itself because it hadn’t bonded with the substrate. Later, we were told that the paint we used as a primer had effectively drawn the moisture out of the plaster. What a drama, which today thankfully makes us smile.
That doesn’t say anything about Alpina, though, as they have recently received excellent test results for some products. It just didn’t work in combination back then.
I would take white textured plaster first and then paint over it; otherwise, you’ll end up with various opened paint pots lying around.
pagoni2020 schrieb:
I'm not a painter, so I can just share my opinion.
I would tint the paint-on plaster with the matching tinting color. Of course, you can mix everything, but in the end, you would be mixing Knauf paint (if it has sand particles, it becomes paint-on plaster) with Alpina paint, which doesn’t make much sense to me. You can have any desired shade mixed for your paint-on plaster by a painter or do it yourself. Since you probably need to apply two coats anyway, it might be worth considering applying the first coat with white paint-on plaster and the second with the tinted color. For the second coat, depending on the level of wear, I would maybe make sure the paint is scrubbable.
I once had a cautionary horror experience with mixing when we wanted to decorate our bedroom with textured plaster. We even bought a Venetian trowel and carefully followed the painter’s instructions. For the primer, we were told that normal white paint would work, so we cleverly used Alpina white. After applying the textured plaster thickly with much effort, the next day we were supposed to paint...
We were shocked because the entire plaster cracked and looked like a dried-up waterhole in the desert. The expensive plaster then peeled off layer by layer with a spatula, or more accurately, it fell off by itself because it hadn’t bonded with the substrate. Later, we were told that the paint we used as a primer had basically drawn the water out of the plaster. What a drama we laugh about now.
That doesn’t say anything about Alpina itself, since they recently received top ratings for some products, but it just didn’t work in that combination back then.
I would first use white paint-on plaster and then paint; otherwise, you end up with several cans of paint lying around. Crazy... but it all sounds logical to me!
I also think we should apply the first coat in the whole house completely with white paint-on plaster.
Then the second coat with Alpina white (ORIGINAL – really important, since there’s also the cheap Alpina paint) – as you said, the paint got very good test results but it’s not exactly cheap.
Alternatively, we could apply the second coat with the Alpina paint we want. But I think it sounds like a good plan to first apply the paint-on plaster and then finish the second coat with a dispersion paint.
Prager91 schrieb:
Alpina white (ORIGINAL - very important,Always only the one with the cat!(Filler words in the toilet also make the cat happy)
Tolentino schrieb:
Always the ones with the cat!
(Filler words into the toilet also make the cat happy)Wow... I only just noticed that now.. 😀
:p
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