Hello,
we need help with doing some painting work ourselves.
For cost reasons, we want to do part of the painting work ourselves and have the other part done by a professional painter.
The process will be roughly as follows:
- We will sand the stair railing (metal with synthetic resin primer) using sandpaper around 180 grit and then paint the railing.
- We will prime all the walls ourselves (we have a primer concentrate that we will mix with water).
- The painter will fill, sand, and paint all the ceilings white.
- The painter will wallpaper all the walls with textured wallpaper (we simply cannot wallpaper ourselves).
- Afterwards, we will paint all the walls in the color we want.
What materials do we need?
Stair railing:
Sandpaper about 180 grit
Paint roller
Paintbrush
Paint tray
What kind of metal protection paint would you recommend (the metal protective paint may contain solvents)?
Priming:
What is the best way to apply the primer? I have seen several methods online:
1. Only with a ceiling brush (moisten just the tip and apply to the wall or ceiling).
2. Using a pressure sprayer (e.g., Gloria), spray onto the wall and then work it in with a roller.
Roller with extension pole?
Ceiling brush?
Gloria sprayer?
Painting walls:
Painter’s tape (e.g., Tesa painter’s tape 38mm (1.5 inches)?)
Paint roller with extension pole
Brush for the edges
Paint grid
Which interior paints would you recommend that have good quality and are easy to work with?
What should we look for in rollers and brushes to recognize good quality?
Thank you very much for your help.
we need help with doing some painting work ourselves.
For cost reasons, we want to do part of the painting work ourselves and have the other part done by a professional painter.
The process will be roughly as follows:
- We will sand the stair railing (metal with synthetic resin primer) using sandpaper around 180 grit and then paint the railing.
- We will prime all the walls ourselves (we have a primer concentrate that we will mix with water).
- The painter will fill, sand, and paint all the ceilings white.
- The painter will wallpaper all the walls with textured wallpaper (we simply cannot wallpaper ourselves).
- Afterwards, we will paint all the walls in the color we want.
What materials do we need?
Stair railing:
Sandpaper about 180 grit
Paint roller
Paintbrush
Paint tray
What kind of metal protection paint would you recommend (the metal protective paint may contain solvents)?
Priming:
What is the best way to apply the primer? I have seen several methods online:
1. Only with a ceiling brush (moisten just the tip and apply to the wall or ceiling).
2. Using a pressure sprayer (e.g., Gloria), spray onto the wall and then work it in with a roller.
Roller with extension pole?
Ceiling brush?
Gloria sprayer?
Painting walls:
Painter’s tape (e.g., Tesa painter’s tape 38mm (1.5 inches)?)
Paint roller with extension pole
Brush for the edges
Paint grid
Which interior paints would you recommend that have good quality and are easy to work with?
What should we look for in rollers and brushes to recognize good quality?
Thank you very much for your help.
Tolentino schrieb:
If you’re fine with textured wallpaper, that’s one way to go. I would recommend asking about the extra cost for painter’s fleece (smooth fleece). I find the look much better than textured wallpaper.We didn’t like smooth fleece that much; we chose textured wallpaper 40, which has a finer grain than standard textured wallpaper.
Tolentino schrieb:
Regarding materials, my personal experience is that good paint is more important than good tools. But the quality doesn’t always increase proportionally with price. I’ve had good experiences with Hornbach’s (dispersion) silicate paint.That’s why I’m asking which paints we should use and what your experiences are. What do you think of Alpina? Overpriced? We don’t want to cut corners on quality; we want at least a good or very good result when we paint everything.
Or would you even recommend using professional-grade paints, like Dinova?
Tolentino schrieb:
I applied the primer with a wallpaper paste brush so you can work it in better. A wide brush might also work but would probably take too long. I wouldn’t trust a roller to get the primer deep enough into the plaster. Spraying would cause a lot of overspray. By the way, be sure to mask the windows well; many primers can permanently damage the frames and glass!Yes, I was thinking to do it that way because spraying might apply too much primer.
How can we tell if enough primer has been applied and that it’s neither too much nor too little?
ypg schrieb:
Is the primer red? We didn’t sand it. But do if you want. The important thing is that the primer stays on. I painted everything with a small brush. Personally, I’m not a fan of those foam rollers.Yes, it’s red. The stair builder recommended roughening it with 180-grit sandpaper so the paint adheres better. I imagine it’s harder to apply the paint without streaks with a brush if you want a smooth, good finish.
ypg schrieb:
About the paint itself: Why do you want to use solvent-based paint? It takes forever to dry. The structure isn’t subjected to mechanical wear, so I’d recommend acrylic paint, especially for environmental reasons. You can choose matte or satin finish, and any color shade is possible.We don’t necessarily want to use solvent-based paint; I only mentioned it because the stair builder said we could. What about Alpina fine paints lacquer? Or would you recommend a different brand? We would definitely prefer matte.
ypg schrieb:
P.S. The paint tray can be cheap, but I wouldn’t go for the cheapest brush. It’s annoying if it sheds bristles. Our stairs were painted in one day.Can you recommend brushes or rollers? I’ve often read that brushes shed bristles or rollers fall apart.
neo-sciliar schrieb:
Hi, is your painter okay with it? How does he exclude his warranty if you’re doing the preparation work yourselves (no offense, but from the questions it sounds like you’re amateurs doing this for the first time)?Yes, he’s okay with it, and yes, this is our first time. Unfortunately, it would exceed our budget to have the painter do everything, so this is the compromise.
Taitv789 schrieb:
I imagine it’s harder to apply the paint evenly with a brush to get a smooth, good result without brush marks. Try it on the underside first. You can always do some light sanding afterwards.
Taitv789 schrieb:
What about Alpina Fine Colors paint? Or would you recommend another brand?
We would definitely prefer matte finish. We used the house brand from the painter’s wholesale store. As I mentioned: this surface doesn’t get much wear, it’s not like handles or steps. No need to make a big deal out of it. You’ll see. If you’re a bit intimidated by paint because you haven’t painted before, grab an old chair and practice on that. Take some time at the hardware store this weekend to get a feel for it.
By the way, I bought paint recently and the prices really shocked me. Three years ago, you got twice as much for your money.
Taitv789 schrieb:
Can you recommend brushes or rollers? I’ve read a lot that brushes shed bristles or rollers fall apart. No, I just buy based on feel, not the cheapest option. Although I do tend to be stingy when it comes to supplies 😉
You can usually tell when washing if a brush sheds quickly. If it does, it’s no big deal: nobody will be inspecting the metal closely later on 😀 You can also just pick out any loose hairs while painting.
Tolentino schrieb:
I can’t say anything about painting. Everything I write refers to the walls.
Alpina – yes, but only the ones with the cat. So only the white??
Which paint brand would you choose for different colors?
The ceilings will be white in our case, and on the walls we will hardly use white, rather gray or other colors.
ypg schrieb:
We used the house brand from the painter’s wholesaler. As I said: it’s not heavily stressed, these aren’t handles or steps. You don’t have to make a big deal out of it. You’ll see. If you’re too cautious about paint because you’ve never painted before, take an old chair and practice painting. Maybe browse around at the hardware store over the weekend.
By the way, I recently bought some paint and was shocked by the prices. Three years ago I could get double the amount for the same money. Yes, paint prices have risen sharply, so I wanted to buy a good quality paint right away, one that is definitely the right choice in sufficient quality (you know the saying: if you buy cheap, you buy twice).
ypg schrieb:
No, I buy based on feel, not the cheapest option. However, I’m quite stingy when it comes to consumables 😉
You can tell when washing if the paint sheds quickly. And if it does, it’s not a big deal: no one will be looking closely at the metal from the seal later 😀 When painting, you can also flick off the hairs. Yes, but you don’t really want to keep pulling hairs out all the time.
It’s a bigger problem with rollers if they lose little pieces.
Is there perhaps a recommended online shop for quality painting supplies?
For example, Obi offers LUX or their own brand for brushes and rollers.
Right now, what matters most for us is finding the right colors, whether for paint or colored emulsion.
I find it really difficult to choose the right paint brands.
Taitv789 schrieb:
I find it extremely difficult to choose the right paint brandI don’t see a problem with the staircase since it is well-primed and you are sanding it. The better the substrate, the easier it will be for the paint to bond with it.Similar topics