Hello everyone,
Starting tomorrow, our interior walls will be finished with Q2 plaster.
We will carry out the painting work ourselves a few weeks later.
Now we are wondering what would be the best option for this.
We have currently considered several options but are still unsure which one we prefer (cost/effort).
1. Simply paint with EasyKnauf roll plaster (fine texture)
2. Apply painter’s fleece underneath and paint with EasyKnauf roll plaster (fine texture)
3. Apply painter’s fleece underneath and paint with standard emulsion paint
4. Use textured wallpaper (Raufaser) and then paint over it
We generally don’t like ceilings and walls to be completely smooth – a fine texture is perfectly fine.
What have you done in similar situations? If it wasn’t a DIY job: What did your painter do?
Any tips/tricks/notes on this?
Starting tomorrow, our interior walls will be finished with Q2 plaster.
We will carry out the painting work ourselves a few weeks later.
Now we are wondering what would be the best option for this.
We have currently considered several options but are still unsure which one we prefer (cost/effort).
1. Simply paint with EasyKnauf roll plaster (fine texture)
2. Apply painter’s fleece underneath and paint with EasyKnauf roll plaster (fine texture)
3. Apply painter’s fleece underneath and paint with standard emulsion paint
4. Use textured wallpaper (Raufaser) and then paint over it
We generally don’t like ceilings and walls to be completely smooth – a fine texture is perfectly fine.
What have you done in similar situations? If it wasn’t a DIY job: What did your painter do?
Any tips/tricks/notes on this?
We also received Q2 gypsum plaster from the general contractor.
A painting company then filled and sanded everything, applied painting fleece, and painted/rolled on wall paint.
Various walls were also colored, and there was even a large poster.
We didn’t want to apply any paint to the new plaster, as that would have lasted forever.
A painting company then filled and sanded everything, applied painting fleece, and painted/rolled on wall paint.
Various walls were also colored, and there was even a large poster.
We didn’t want to apply any paint to the new plaster, as that would have lasted forever.
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pagoni202012 Jan 2022 14:38Ultimately, it depends on what your "Q2" looks like. It’s a much-discussed topic, yet it often turns out differently in practice.
We also wanted to go with a brush-on plaster again because I had used it before and liked it. You can later glaze it with color depending on the desired effect, or mix the color into it right away. Back then, we used the one from the company Haering with a 1mm (0.04 inch) grain size; we didn’t like it coarser. I believe Knauf also offers a 0.5mm (0.02 inch) version with a suitable fine roller, which I think I would like—either applied in a cross-hatch pattern or just straight on the wall.
Maybe you could also buy the material from a local painting contractor—it’s usually not too expensive and easy to get more if needed. That is actually an argument in favor of the Knauf product, because you can simply buy it again at a building supply store, and it is generally a decent product.
Woodchip wallpaper (Raufaser) wouldn’t be my choice. Also, I find wallpapering more labor-intensive than brush-on plaster, and the woodchip wallpaper would need to be painted again.
Depending on the quality of your substrate, you might even just apply paint, but with a “pattern roller” or in a cross-hatch technique so it doesn’t look too smooth. It’s best to try it out in the utility room and maybe just leave it there as a studio space 😀.
The “problem” with brush-on plaster would be that it would need to be sanded if you ever want to remove it—but that wouldn’t stop me.
Otherwise, non-woven wallpaper with paint is of course a very good solution. Non-woven wallpaper is also available with a fine grain pattern already.
We also wanted to go with a brush-on plaster again because I had used it before and liked it. You can later glaze it with color depending on the desired effect, or mix the color into it right away. Back then, we used the one from the company Haering with a 1mm (0.04 inch) grain size; we didn’t like it coarser. I believe Knauf also offers a 0.5mm (0.02 inch) version with a suitable fine roller, which I think I would like—either applied in a cross-hatch pattern or just straight on the wall.
Maybe you could also buy the material from a local painting contractor—it’s usually not too expensive and easy to get more if needed. That is actually an argument in favor of the Knauf product, because you can simply buy it again at a building supply store, and it is generally a decent product.
Woodchip wallpaper (Raufaser) wouldn’t be my choice. Also, I find wallpapering more labor-intensive than brush-on plaster, and the woodchip wallpaper would need to be painted again.
Depending on the quality of your substrate, you might even just apply paint, but with a “pattern roller” or in a cross-hatch technique so it doesn’t look too smooth. It’s best to try it out in the utility room and maybe just leave it there as a studio space 😀.
The “problem” with brush-on plaster would be that it would need to be sanded if you ever want to remove it—but that wouldn’t stop me.
Otherwise, non-woven wallpaper with paint is of course a very good solution. Non-woven wallpaper is also available with a fine grain pattern already.
We have now roughly sanded once in the first room and painted directly with lime-dispersion paint. I was not satisfied with the result at all. So we sanded again and painted again. In two other rooms, we sanded very carefully with an orbital sander, feeling as smooth as a baby’s bottom, but after the first coat there were still lots of scratches and streaks.
Upstairs, we are now leaving it as is and telling everyone that this is intentional. Downstairs, I am still considering putting painter’s fleece everywhere.
In the end, I would have preferred to use textured roller plaster as I originally planned. But my wife wanted baby-soft walls.
A neighbor who built with the same company hired painters for filling and painting. They filled and sanded some walls five times(!) before painting.
All tradespeople and my expert assessor rated the interior plaster as good to very good beforehand.
My recommendation would be woodchip wallpaper if you can handle the look, or textured roller plaster. For textured roller plaster, I assume that thorough sanding beforehand is enough, but I have no personal experience with it.
Upstairs, we are now leaving it as is and telling everyone that this is intentional. Downstairs, I am still considering putting painter’s fleece everywhere.
In the end, I would have preferred to use textured roller plaster as I originally planned. But my wife wanted baby-soft walls.
A neighbor who built with the same company hired painters for filling and painting. They filled and sanded some walls five times(!) before painting.
All tradespeople and my expert assessor rated the interior plaster as good to very good beforehand.
My recommendation would be woodchip wallpaper if you can handle the look, or textured roller plaster. For textured roller plaster, I assume that thorough sanding beforehand is enough, but I have no personal experience with it.
Nida35a schrieb:
We also received Q2 gypsum plaster from the general contractor.
A painting company then filled and sanded everything, applied painting fleece, and painted/rolled wall paint.
Several walls were painted in color, including a large poster.
We didn’t want any paint on the new plaster, otherwise it would have been permanent. This is certainly the best but also the most labor-intensive option.
The question I have is: What actual advantages does the painting fleece provide? Basically, I only see the benefit of less crack formation, and I could then simply paint with a standard dispersion paint, which means the plaster wouldn’t be permanent.
White textured plaster and textured plaster mixed with color. If I want a different color later, I would have to sand it down first, right?
So the disadvantage of the plaster might be that any change in color or type of coating requires sanding the plaster, correct?
Tolentino schrieb:
We first painted the first room after a rough sanding using lime dispersion paint. I was not satisfied with the result at all. So we sanded again and repainted. In two other rooms, we sanded very carefully with an orbital sander, feeling it was as smooth as a baby’s bottom, but even after the first coat, there were still scratches and streaks.
Upstairs, we are leaving it as it is and telling everyone that this is intentional. Downstairs, I am now considering applying painter’s fleece everywhere.
In the end, I would have preferred to paint with textured plaster, as I originally planned. But my wife wanted baby-smooth walls.
A neighbor, who built with the same company, hired painters for filling and painting. He said they filled and sanded some walls five times(!) before painting.
The interior plaster was considered good to very good by all tradespeople and my building inspector beforehand.
My recommendation would be textured wallpaper (Raufaser), if you can accept the look, or textured plaster. For textured plaster, I guess thorough sanding before painting is enough, but I have no experience with it. I also suspect that simply painting over (even after sanding) is only somewhat the best option, as you yourself mentioned.
My idea was to try painting with textured plaster in the utility room first and see how it looks. If I don’t like it at all, the only real option left is painter’s fleece plus regular paint.
I’m not a fan of textured wallpaper... Textured plaster would definitely be the easiest and probably the most cost-effective and visually pleasing option.
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