ᐅ Have the transition from the second to the third coat smoothed out or use painter’s fleece (paint scrim).
Created on: 19 Apr 2020 07:46
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Fenomen
Hello everyone,
We have finally fulfilled our dream of owning a home. We built an end-of-terrace house with a developer, and according to the contract, the walls will be handed over at Q2 finish.
Now we are wondering how to proceed with the walls. We have already consulted several painters and heard different opinions.
One advises against using painting fleece altogether. It would be better to smooth everything to a Q3 finish, as smooth as a baby’s bottom, and then later repair any likely settlement cracks (the walls need to breathe).
The other recommends using painting fleece entirely, especially to mask settlement cracks in a new build (since we’ve already paid so much for the house, it would be a shame to see all the cracks later).
You can already see some cracks appearing.
So here we are, uncertain about the next step. Personally, I tend to lean towards having the walls smoothed to a higher finish, mainly for the breathability of the walls.
I find that somehow more natural.
I would really like to hear your opinions on this.
Thank you very much
We have finally fulfilled our dream of owning a home. We built an end-of-terrace house with a developer, and according to the contract, the walls will be handed over at Q2 finish.
Now we are wondering how to proceed with the walls. We have already consulted several painters and heard different opinions.
One advises against using painting fleece altogether. It would be better to smooth everything to a Q3 finish, as smooth as a baby’s bottom, and then later repair any likely settlement cracks (the walls need to breathe).
The other recommends using painting fleece entirely, especially to mask settlement cracks in a new build (since we’ve already paid so much for the house, it would be a shame to see all the cracks later).
You can already see some cracks appearing.
So here we are, uncertain about the next step. Personally, I tend to lean towards having the walls smoothed to a higher finish, mainly for the breathability of the walls.
I find that somehow more natural.
I would really like to hear your opinions on this.
Thank you very much
Golfi90 schrieb:
For our next house, I would definitely have Q3 plastering and sanding done, followed by painting fleece!
We are so dissatisfied with our current Q2 finish that we will gradually renovate the rooms ourselves over the next months/years.And Why are you dissatisfied?
In our previous rental apartment, the plaster was as smooth as a baby’s bottom, but when you touched it, it left marks... though I have no idea what material that was.
With our current plaster, you really have to hit it hard for anything to come off, and I’m sure that no fleece will help if you’re banging around with the end of a ladder...
Q3 and painter’s fleece is the best combination for me.
Using Q3 as a base creates a smooth wall surface.
The fleece covers cracks.
I would definitely do it this way again.
We applied no fleece in a small foyer area (eventually laziness won out). There, we have two visible cracks. It’s interesting to observe, but in living areas, that would be a no-go for me.
Next time the painters work there, the fleece will definitely be applied.
Five craftsmen, seven opinions. In the end, you have to decide based on appearance, costs, time, and possibly your own work...
Using Q3 as a base creates a smooth wall surface.
The fleece covers cracks.
I would definitely do it this way again.
We applied no fleece in a small foyer area (eventually laziness won out). There, we have two visible cracks. It’s interesting to observe, but in living areas, that would be a no-go for me.
Next time the painters work there, the fleece will definitely be applied.
Five craftsmen, seven opinions. In the end, you have to decide based on appearance, costs, time, and possibly your own work...
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goalkeeper21 Apr 2020 08:54We are currently applying painter’s fleece over Q2-finished walls. The painter repaired and sanded some unsightly spots again, which took about 15 hours of work.
The remaining walls were then cleared of plaster residues, sanded, and wallpapered with 150-grit smooth fleece before being painted.
The result is really great and completely sufficient for us. We wouldn’t have wanted to pay the extra cost for full-surface Q3 finish anyway.
The remaining walls were then cleared of plaster residues, sanded, and wallpapered with 150-grit smooth fleece before being painted.
The result is really great and completely sufficient for us. We wouldn’t have wanted to pay the extra cost for full-surface Q3 finish anyway.
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Mildematze1 May 2020 17:17If it were my own property that I live in myself, I would apply a full-surface fiberglass mesh plaster and finish with a Q3 skim coat. Then a good paint on top, and that’s it.
But I can do it myself and don’t have to pay anyone expensive. It’s always the question of “what can I live with and what can I afford.”
But I can do it myself and don’t have to pay anyone expensive. It’s always the question of “what can I live with and what can I afford.”
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Elithenas1 May 2020 18:55Snowy36 schrieb:
Why is your wall sensitive? We have lime-cement plaster in the bathrooms and lime-gypsum plaster elsewhere, and we simply paint over it—this is how 99% of home builders in Bavaria do it, and nothing is sensitive there. I wasn’t aware that there are statistics about the interior wall finishes used by home builders in Bavaria. But maybe that’s the job of our local minister—they do need to do something sometimes.
By the way, we are also in Bavaria and chose a Q3 level skim coat plus painter’s fleece.
In my opinion, Q2 is definitely not sufficient for a property I live in myself—there are also plasterers who deliver Q2 work as if it were Q4 without realizing that they are significantly undervaluing their work. So here, we speak of Q2 according to the usual standards.
Painter’s fleece is simply used to prevent cracks and to make future renovations or redesigns of the walls easier.
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