Hello everyone, after picking up many valuable tips here as a silent reader, I would now like to present our floor plan for discussion (Note: there are still a few errors in the plan because the planner sent the draft quickly; these will of course be corrected, e.g., the 2-meter (6.6 ft) line on the upper floor right side, escape routes, etc.).
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 807 sqm (8688 sqft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.25
Floor area ratio:
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see site plan
Perimeter development: no
Number of parking spaces: 2 carports
Number of stories: 1
Roof type: gable roof
Style: classic
Orientation: south
Maximum heights / limits: n/a
Other requirements: utility line along the western property boundary with a 4 m (13 ft) protection zone
Requirements of the Homeowners
Style, roof type, building type: classic single-family house with a gable roof
Basement, stories: no basement, 1 full story
Number of occupants, ages: 3 (33, 33, 2), a 4th is possible
Room requirements on ground floor (GF), upper floor (UF): GF: open living/dining area, guest room, shower/WC; UF: 2 children’s rooms, bedroom, dressing/storage, bathroom
Office: family use or home office; primarily guest room with storage option for important documents
Overnight guests per year: about 12
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: classic modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: both yes
Number of permanent dining seats: 6 with option for 10-12
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other: moderately busy circular road to the south (50 km/h (31 mph)), no direct view due to raised earth embankment (additionally noise protection wall planned if needed), view of greenery from living room
Wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why or why not: desire for storage option in the kitchen for glass recycling, paper, water crates; guest room must be on the ground floor to ensure necessary privacy
House Design
Planner: planner from a construction company, based on our specifications
What do you particularly like? Why?: living area because of the kitchen island, storage under the stairs, recessed living area with garden view (no traffic area), large dressing/storage on the upper floor, bathroom not visible due to double casement window, utility/mudroom, distance from stairs to main entrance—> we really like the ground floor except for the small utility room; we are uncertain whether the children’s rooms on the upper floor are comfortable and easy to furnish
What do you dislike? Why?: utility room very small, children’s rooms are very awkwardly shaped, bedroom very large compared to kids’ rooms (12-14 sqm (130-150 sqft) would have been enough for us), location of the outdoor unit for the air-to-water heat pump
Price estimate according to architect/planner: €315,000 without kitchen, floors, painting, landscaping, and additional construction costs
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: €420,000
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump
If you had to give up, which details or additions
-you could give up: straight staircase, but not storage underneath
-you could not give up: storage on the ground floor, guest room on the ground floor with nearby shower/WC
Why did the design end up as it is now?
Which of your wishes were implemented by the planner: living area, storage under the stairs accessible from the kitchen; wishes stemmed from a mix of many examples from various magazines
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion? Tailored individually to our wishes (especially on the ground floor)
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Are there suggestions for a better divided upper floor, possibly with a different staircase? It is important to us that the children’s rooms remain on the south side. Or do you think concerns about the awkward children’s rooms are not justified?
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 807 sqm (8688 sqft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.25
Floor area ratio:
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see site plan
Perimeter development: no
Number of parking spaces: 2 carports
Number of stories: 1
Roof type: gable roof
Style: classic
Orientation: south
Maximum heights / limits: n/a
Other requirements: utility line along the western property boundary with a 4 m (13 ft) protection zone
Requirements of the Homeowners
Style, roof type, building type: classic single-family house with a gable roof
Basement, stories: no basement, 1 full story
Number of occupants, ages: 3 (33, 33, 2), a 4th is possible
Room requirements on ground floor (GF), upper floor (UF): GF: open living/dining area, guest room, shower/WC; UF: 2 children’s rooms, bedroom, dressing/storage, bathroom
Office: family use or home office; primarily guest room with storage option for important documents
Overnight guests per year: about 12
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: classic modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: both yes
Number of permanent dining seats: 6 with option for 10-12
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other: moderately busy circular road to the south (50 km/h (31 mph)), no direct view due to raised earth embankment (additionally noise protection wall planned if needed), view of greenery from living room
Wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why or why not: desire for storage option in the kitchen for glass recycling, paper, water crates; guest room must be on the ground floor to ensure necessary privacy
House Design
Planner: planner from a construction company, based on our specifications
What do you particularly like? Why?: living area because of the kitchen island, storage under the stairs, recessed living area with garden view (no traffic area), large dressing/storage on the upper floor, bathroom not visible due to double casement window, utility/mudroom, distance from stairs to main entrance—> we really like the ground floor except for the small utility room; we are uncertain whether the children’s rooms on the upper floor are comfortable and easy to furnish
What do you dislike? Why?: utility room very small, children’s rooms are very awkwardly shaped, bedroom very large compared to kids’ rooms (12-14 sqm (130-150 sqft) would have been enough for us), location of the outdoor unit for the air-to-water heat pump
Price estimate according to architect/planner: €315,000 without kitchen, floors, painting, landscaping, and additional construction costs
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: €420,000
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump
If you had to give up, which details or additions
-you could give up: straight staircase, but not storage underneath
-you could not give up: storage on the ground floor, guest room on the ground floor with nearby shower/WC
Why did the design end up as it is now?
Which of your wishes were implemented by the planner: living area, storage under the stairs accessible from the kitchen; wishes stemmed from a mix of many examples from various magazines
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion? Tailored individually to our wishes (especially on the ground floor)
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Are there suggestions for a better divided upper floor, possibly with a different staircase? It is important to us that the children’s rooms remain on the south side. Or do you think concerns about the awkward children’s rooms are not justified?
Angel88 schrieb:
then I thank you for your assessments.So, what will you do now: start a redesign to achieve significant improvements, or just hope a good fairy will untangle the layout of the current floor plan proposal?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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We will need to think about that. So far, unfortunately, no fairy godmother has appeared. Nor have there been any ideas for a new design concept (which I do not expect here in the forum) that would incorporate our wishes. The floor plan definitely has its advantages and merits for our needs. We will probably discuss the drawbacks with the architect and see if some points can still be improved. Suggestions for improvements as well as new design concepts are therefore still very welcome.
So far, you have mainly avoided answering my question about whether and, if so, which catalog design from the provider serves as the basis, and where the flexibility for the homeowners’ change requests lies. We also don’t know if you have already tried, for example, house footprints that are clearly less square. Would the development plan allow for a higher knee wall, for instance?
Take a look around this forum to see what that usually results in: with each new variation, the number of corners in the floor plan increases by at least one.
My main suggestion was precisely to consider a new concept instead of making improvements.
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Angel88 schrieb:
We will probably discuss the disadvantages with the planner and see if some points can still be improved.
Take a look around this forum to see what that usually results in: with each new variation, the number of corners in the floor plan increases by at least one.
Angel88 schrieb:
Suggestions for improvements as well as new concepts are therefore always welcome.
My main suggestion was precisely to consider a new concept instead of making improvements.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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So, we have complete freedom regarding both the exterior and interior dimensions. The development plan requires a single-story design. The knee wall inside will be approximately 1 meter (3.3 feet) high. It could probably be higher, but that would, of course, increase costs.
We reviewed several sample floor plans with the designer, but none were acceptable to us—mostly due to the staircase being located near the front door. As a result, our floor plan was developed quite independently of those examples, so I can’t really explain the basis for it since it evolved through conversation.
We actually like it, except for the limitation with Children’s Room II and the technical room. The rest works well for us. The storage space missing downstairs is compensated for upstairs in the walk-in closet, whose narrow shape doesn’t bother us. Closed wardrobes will be placed there because my husband is quite messy when it comes to clothes, and I don’t want to see that all the time. Therefore, the walk-in closet will remain and be fitted with closed cabinets, which will also store shoes, winter/summer jackets, and so on.
What does “quadratferne Grundflächen” mean?
We reviewed several sample floor plans with the designer, but none were acceptable to us—mostly due to the staircase being located near the front door. As a result, our floor plan was developed quite independently of those examples, so I can’t really explain the basis for it since it evolved through conversation.
We actually like it, except for the limitation with Children’s Room II and the technical room. The rest works well for us. The storage space missing downstairs is compensated for upstairs in the walk-in closet, whose narrow shape doesn’t bother us. Closed wardrobes will be placed there because my husband is quite messy when it comes to clothes, and I don’t want to see that all the time. Therefore, the walk-in closet will remain and be fitted with closed cabinets, which will also store shoes, winter/summer jackets, and so on.
What does “quadratferne Grundflächen” mean?
So a custom design. Where do their dimensions come from?
Uh, but don’t you have exactly those here as well?
Ten by ten is square, your nine and a half by ten and a half is close to square. Nine by eleven or eight and a quarter by twelve would mean similarly sized floor areas but could prove to be more practical alternatives. The more square the house footprint, the more difficult it becomes to fit a collection of non-square room shapes inside without compromise. This issue becomes less important if budget is not a concern and the overall dimensions can be larger. In your (let’s say “mid-range”) house size category, proven construction proposals tend to be more “successful” than attempts at individual designs—unless specific features come into play (like a sloped site, a third child, a second home office, or the like). Additionally, this is a one-and-a-half-story house: on about one hundred square meters (1,076 square feet) of floor area, these are almost as “small” as “urban villas” with ninety square meters (969 square feet).
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Angel88 schrieb:
We went through some example floor plans with the planner, but all of them were unacceptable to us (mostly because of the staircase location near the front door).
Uh, but don’t you have exactly those here as well?
Angel88 schrieb:
What do you mean by non-square floor areas?
Ten by ten is square, your nine and a half by ten and a half is close to square. Nine by eleven or eight and a quarter by twelve would mean similarly sized floor areas but could prove to be more practical alternatives. The more square the house footprint, the more difficult it becomes to fit a collection of non-square room shapes inside without compromise. This issue becomes less important if budget is not a concern and the overall dimensions can be larger. In your (let’s say “mid-range”) house size category, proven construction proposals tend to be more “successful” than attempts at individual designs—unless specific features come into play (like a sloped site, a third child, a second home office, or the like). Additionally, this is a one-and-a-half-story house: on about one hundred square meters (1,076 square feet) of floor area, these are almost as “small” as “urban villas” with ninety square meters (969 square feet).
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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