ᐅ Floor Plan of a 150 m² Urban Villa – Opinions and Feedback

Created on: 22 Mar 2017 16:48
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_Cone_
Hello forum community,

we have now received the second draft of our house and would like to get some feedback.

Development Plan/Restrictions

Plot size: 660 m² (7,100 sq ft)
Slope
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Building window, building line, and boundary: see development plan
Edge development: see development plan
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hip roof

Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: hip roof, urban villa
Basement, floors: none, 2 full floors
Number of people, age: 2 adults and 2 children
Space requirement on ground floor and upper floor: approx. 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft)
Office: home office
Open or closed architecture: closed
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no, yes
Number of dining seats: 4-6
Fireplace: no
Balcony, roof terrace: terrace
Garage, carport: garage (6 x 7 m) (20 x 23 ft)

House Design
Designed by: planner from a construction company
What do you especially like? Why?: the layout and size of the upper floor
What do you not like? Why?: size of the living/dining room and kitchen on the ground floor
Preferred heating system: gas with solar thermal


Site plan with parcels, boundary lines, legend and scale

Site plan of a building plot with boundary lines, dimensions and legend

Ground floor plan of a house with building boundary, dimensions and room layout

Upper floor plan of a house with dimensions and walls.

Bathroom floor plan with bathtub, sink and toilet on building plan

Architectural drawing: west and north elevation of a detached house with roof

East and south elevation of a detached house with roof, windows and garage.
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j.bautsch
23 Mar 2017 07:44
I would strongly recommend swapping the kitchen and the study and planning a terrace access from the kitchen. However, this doesn’t really improve the overall rather flawed floor plan.

@11ant, I need about 105cm (41 inches) height and my husband about 115cm (45 inches). I am 179cm (5 ft 10 in) and he is 193cm (6 ft 4 in). If you have long legs like me, the working height just has to be higher (but most builders usually don't give it enough thought).
RobsonMKK23 Mar 2017 08:44
11ant schrieb:
Regarding word choice, I would appreciate a bit more communication discipline.

Nevertheless, I would like to explain the meaning:

The heating system operates without needing constant supervision. You only rarely have to access the fuse box. And transferring laundry from the washing machine to the adjacent dryer is not usually done exactly when a visitor needs to use the restroom.

So, if you sacrifice the shower in this toilet area (which is more enjoyable in the bathroom) and relocate the washing machine and dryer opposite it, you could create an access point there for a confined utility and washing machine room.

This would also make it possible to shift the staircase by about one meter (3 feet), which would then benefit the dressing room upstairs. I wouldn’t mind losing this small "storage" space, which would at most hide the seventh little goat.

Certainly, a more creative planner would bring more excitement, but my suggestion wasn’t intended to win first prize; rather, it was meant to show a minimally invasive way to improve things. Where this is supposed to lead in Kitzbühel, I can’t quite follow.

I don’t want to go further into this, but communication discipline actually means keeping the channel clear for important messages — think about that.

And regarding the other points: it remains absolute nonsense, no matter how much you twist and turn like an eel.
The utility room is also used for storing supplies and, if needed, for bulky valuable items that don’t fit in the attic or shouldn’t be kept in the garage.

But hey, at least you got another post out of it.
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ypg
23 Mar 2017 11:30
There is currently no space allocated in this design for details such as the height of the countertop.

Rearranging one or two walls to provide access from the utility room to the bathroom, or vice versa, is also not appropriate for this somewhat careless and thoughtless draft.

As long as the planner is serious about the walk-in closet, I would recommend looking at additional floor plans. Even a layperson should notice the shortcomings in this layout.

Best regards in brief
11ant23 Mar 2017 13:52
RobsonMKK schrieb:
I don't want to go deeper into this, [...] but hey, at least you have another post.
RobsonMKK schrieb:
think about it


I couldn’t have said it better myself.
RobsonMKK schrieb:
but radio discipline basically means keeping the channel clear for important messages,


In emergency services radio communication (BOS radio), it means keeping the radio traffic free from unnecessary remarks that ideally should not be included in the log.
RobsonMKK schrieb:
The utility room is also used for storing supplies and


In the specific design, it is more a utility area (HAR) with space for a washing machine and dryer—and no room for any other use.
ypg schrieb:
There is no space yet in this design for details like how high the countertop should be.


I have to agree with you—although the scale and level of detail suggest a construction plan, this is really just a (poor) preliminary draft.
ypg schrieb:
Also, this somewhat careless and thoughtless draft, just shifting one or two walls to provide access through the utility room to the bathroom or vice versa, is completely inappropriate here.


My suggestion was not intended as a perfect solution but merely as a way out to rescue this over-salted soup. I fully agree that a confident client would rightly discard this mess immediately. However, when someone is working with designs from a contractor’s draftsman, I anticipate a client less assertive than that.
ypg schrieb:
Even a layperson should notice the flaws in this floor plan.


I could well imagine that a layperson might primarily see positive points in this draft:

1) The planner fairly allocated the living areas between parents and children;

2) The planner was kind enough to at least include our self-built garage in outline on the plans;

3) Even small details, such as window symmetry and our kitchen design with the countertop extending into the window sill, were considered;

4) There is even a parking spot for a vacuum cleaner on the upper floor.

However, a layperson is less likely to recognize the poor quality of the plan by looking at the bare drawings, but rather very effectively by following @Paulus16’s advice from post #10 to evaluate the rooms by testing them with actual furniture arrangements.
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Curly
23 Mar 2017 18:53
My children would kill me if I planned a house without a shower on the upper floor, and I would end up with a wet staircase.
The walk-in closet seems like a joke—better to have no walk-in closet at all!
I find the living room way too small, especially with kids. Where are you supposed to put a sofa and a TV, and still have space to go out to the patio door? Does the office really need to be that big?

Best regards,
Sabine
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ypg
23 Mar 2017 19:03
The questions from the pinned thread with the questionnaire (see below) have not been answered at all.
@_Cone_, it would be helpful if you could explain why, for example, there is no shower integrated on the upper floor.
Since you can gain value from our critical feedback, it would make sense for you to share some thoughts on this 🙂

Why did the design turn out the way it did? For example:
Is it a standard design from the planner?
Which of your wishes were implemented by the architect?
Is it a combination of many examples from various magazines?
What do you consider particularly good or bad about it?